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    Post by Rayna Wed 25 Mar 2009, 05:11

    We've all heard the comments; we've all probably made remarks. We've possibly lectured some unknown soul who loved Cardcaptors as a child about how glorious the original was; the cuteness of it, with an equal amount of maturity, the herion being a female - the love which sparked between Syaoran and Sakura.

    Now I'm going to ask you a different question - can you find, in anyway, beyond the fact that Cardcaptors may have introduced you to the real Cardcaptor Sakura - good things regarding the English dub?

    Many of us here speak English as our Native Tounge, and as Cardcaptor Sakura may have been unavailable to us as children, we may have had to only resort to the English dub.

    I'm going to play devil's advocate and list some positive aspects of the dub. Keep in mind I entirely believe the original to be the greatest creation ever -but I intend to make the dub seem remotely tolerable.

    Also keep in mind that I reside in Canada-all episodes of Cardcaptors were released here, and Syaoran Li wasn't introduced until the 8 episode just like the original Japanese. (Of course, all of the edits and cuts were still there.) From my understand, in America - not all episodes were released, for whatever reason.

    So, with that in mind, some positive point(s);

    Kero: Yes, he was made obnoxious. Yes, he was a cute small teddy bear with the most over-bearing voice in comparison for his Japanese counterpart. But his voice did add some comedy. It was friendly in some strange way. Perhaps English Kero provided a safety-net with his louder voice in the English version. (Hey, he was just this small, little flying teddy!) Perhaps because things like the Kool-Aid man tend to appeal to us, that made Kero appeal to us. (As that who I sort of related his voice to.)

    Yuui: I liked his English voice, it seemed to fit better.

    Syaoran: Well, we got to experience the voice talents of what? Four different voice actors? At least Syaoran had different voices to play with...from sounding like a kid to an adult...

    -They did allow a hug! Syaoran did hug Sakura in the elevator scene, however brief it was...

    -catchy song, I forget what it's called? I think it was called "Guardian Of the Cards". Something like "you're the chosen one, yes you are. Your friends are here, it's crystal clear, you're the guardian of the cards." Well, I liked it.

    I'm drawing some blanks currently...it's been so long since I've seen Cardcaptors...
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    Post by Sakura_fai Wed 08 Apr 2009, 10:56

    I agree with your rayna, I liked the beginning song too. IT was awesome.

    Although the dub ruined the names for me, (I thought Tomoyo as Madison for like so many years and pronouced 'Sakura' so badly, people cringed. and I still think of the English names of Sakura's friends instead of the original)
    I still enjoyed it. It was how I got into CCS, how I got into manga/anime, and how I got into the crazy world of the beloved CLAMP. XD

    I don't find too many problems with the dub maybe because I grew up with it, but I think the voices aren't so bad, better than others I've heard. I think the major issue was how they changed the names. But really, would you rather have the voice actors butchering the Japanese names? or saying names that they can actually pronouce?

    Of course, I haven't really watched alot of Cardcaptors. And now that I went back on Youtube to watch the dub, I've realized I missed alot of things, and although it's not good, and they did cut out alot of romance. There's always the little saying in the back of my mind: "Hey, it could've been worse." Plus, wasn't CCS one of the first, of the practice of dubbing animes into English? Because I don't remember many English animes around that time period except for Pokemon, and then YuGiOh. Then after those two, more series were being dubbed and pushed into America. But although people complain of CCS and such, they didn't really show it for a long time. I remember looking forward to it, and after like 1 or 2 years. IT was cut off. But that may only be in America.


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    Post by Rayna Thu 09 Apr 2009, 03:56

    Sakura_fai wrote: or saying names that they can actually pronouce?

    Funny that you said that! I'm surprised they retained the name "Sakura" as they constantly pronounced it "Sah-Koo-Rah" which drove me to break of insanity. (Alright, that's an over exaggeration >__< I loved how they switched Syaoran's name around, though. "Li" is a bit easier to pronounce I guess, for English-speakers. Li's not a bad name. I refer to them by their Japanese names, too.

    I thought "Touya" turning into "Tori" wasn't too bad, however.
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    Post by Raj-kun Thu 09 Apr 2009, 21:53

    The Cardcaptors version that I watched had full 70 episodes, plus the original four out of six opening and ending songs dubbed in english and hindi. The names were changed, and yet indeed on the overall I thought it was a decent job at english dubbing of Cardcaptor Sakura.

    But obviously, when I watched the original Japanese version nothing could come near to that!
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    Post by YamiSakura Fri 10 Apr 2009, 09:38

    Raj-kun wrote:The Cardcaptors version that I watched had full 70 episodes, plus the original four out of six opening and ending songs dubbed in english and hindi.

    Well, the "Cardcaptors" version I will be referring to is the US dub one >___> in which I can certainly name many things I can bash on with being "merging a few episodes into 1", "cutting out all the romance and making Li a total EMO kid who only blame himself not good enough to be the cardmaster" etc. as just some example fire

    *ahem* anyway... staying on topic... Hm... to tell you the truth, I really couldn't think of "any" good out of the US dub Cardcaptor version ^^;;; The VA is okay I suppose, though I normally have an okay tolerate toward dub voices.

    However, I suppose the "good" out of this : it is the first series who forced me to find the sub version to download and watch XD [yes, you can also say CCS is the first fansub series I have ever downloaded/watched from the internet]
    Prior to this series, I only resort to whatever anime I can watch on TV [meaning I mostly watched dub version before] or when I was a kid in HK, my brother would be the one renting the sub anime series from LD/VHS shop to watch. ^^

    So, I suppose the "good" I got from "Cardcaptor" series is that "Because it is such a horrible series" that I need to find the original one to watch; in which, I am exposed to a whole new dimension that internet is an AMAZING source. angel There are so many uncensored/original JP anime out there I can easily downloaded/watched without spending the money to buy/rent the DVD/VHS.
    Or waited for DUBBING to be released on TV or some other media [if the series even got license at all and hoping that they didn't censor much -__-].
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    Post by chibi-chan Sun 12 Apr 2009, 12:28

    eh..I can't find anyting good in cardcaptors either >.< They cut and edited out most of the important scene and changed all the characters' names except fer Sakura ( that is the only thing I like that they didn't change her name but still..they couldn't even pronounce her name right!) I think Syaoran's voice is ok, but he does sound like a bratty kid sometimes >.>
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    Post by amethyst-rose Sat 18 Apr 2009, 18:10

    You know, when I first watched it I was just starting high school and I hadn't really been exposed to too much anime and manga at the time, since I didn't use the computer much. So to me, it was sort of like the Sailor Moon and Dragonball Z dubs. I liked it because I hadn't known any better ^^; But now that I've seen the original, I honestly can't think of anything good that came out of it either, except for the fact that I liked it enough to actually search for it on the internet - though I hadn't become fully interested in it right away, but at least I had known about it ^^ I don't think I saw the US dub, because the version I remember hadn't merged several episodes into one and it had at least 70 (though I've never seen them all) so I don't know what happened there o_O

    I'd actually like to see it re-dubbed as an uncut version. I think if FUNimation were to do it, they would probably do a fairly decent job of it now, since they've gotten pretty good with their dubbing and keeping a series original for the most part over the years, even though some of their voice actor choices for Tsubasa were bad ^^; As long as they picked the right voices to match the child characters, I think that they would do okay ^^;
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    Post by Rayna Sun 19 Apr 2009, 05:09

    amethyst-rose wrote: I don't think I saw the US dub, because the version I remember hadn't merged several episodes into one and it had at least 70 (though I've never seen them all) so I don't know what happened there o_O

    Your status says you're from Canada so which is where I reside, too. They aired all 70 episodes here. In the United States, they originally started at episode 8, as opposed to episode 1 - which is where it started in Canada. They wanted to introduce Li Shaoran as a main character, and sadly-he doesn't appear until episode 8. But the dub in United States was even worse. They skipped quite a few episodes, I'm not even sure if the series was completed at first. It was here. They even showed the elevator scene where Syaoran embrases Sakura - although that scene was cut short. :/ Then again, if one of our companies had purchased the right to Cardcaptor Sakura, we probably would've kept a lot. (The fact gay marriages are legal here..., but I don't know if they would've kept Meilin as Syaoran's cousin...that's really hard to tackle!) Actually, I hear the Quebec version of CCS was really decent!

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