I don't understand how the seven year old sakura is frozen in time. How is this situation still existing when this country is supposed to be altered with new relationships and the death seal thing was never suppose to happen! I mean the past was changed right? I am really confused. Someone clear this for me!
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Can't understand this little Sakura part!
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Excellent question. I dont understand it either. Why does she still exist while the others (Touya, Yukito, her father Fujitaka, etc) dont exist anymore?
The only part of answer I can come up is that the seal of death somehow conserved her. (Its the only difference I observe between her and her family members who seemed to have vanished.)
The only part of answer I can come up is that the seal of death somehow conserved her. (Its the only difference I observe between her and her family members who seemed to have vanished.)
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Well, Shaolan wished to go back in time. By doing this, he went back in time and the world hw wanted to conserve did not have time anymore. The consequence is that a paralell world exists so that clow land and tokyo can exist simoultaniosly...I hope that this is right^^
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It confused me, too. So technically, "Syaoran"'s Sakura was neither the Clone nor the Real, but young Sakura - the one he grew up with. I don't comprehend why she was preserved in time; I guess because it was Syaoran's special person....
But then, who replaced her? She replaced herself?
But then, who replaced her? She replaced herself?
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I think the idea is that time in a way split into two, the frozen time with little sakura where FWR intervened, and the time where FWR did not intervene, so real Sakura grew up etc.
Another way of saying it is like a there's fork in time:
Sakura is born and grows to nearly 7, then times splits into a fork. Sakura in one time meets "Syaoran" and is attacked and frozen and so on, and the Sakura in the other time meets C!Syaoran (because of FWR's plan) and grows up with him instead.
I hope this helps a little bit, but I'm sure many others can explain it better ^.^'''
Another way of saying it is like a there's fork in time:
Sakura is born and grows to nearly 7, then times splits into a fork. Sakura in one time meets "Syaoran" and is attacked and frozen and so on, and the Sakura in the other time meets C!Syaoran (because of FWR's plan) and grows up with him instead.
I hope this helps a little bit, but I'm sure many others can explain it better ^.^'''
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This is one of those time... I would want to say that little|sakura is only part of the FEATHER ^^;;; but yeah... that doesn't work out... *sigh* couldn't take the easy way out!!
Anyway, I think THE easiest way to explain this or at least to me that may make sense would be. Just as Watanuki is an rare existance that is born as a result of time reverse... little|Sakura is sort of the same way too.
So, let's move to a timeline:
(1) timeline (A) -> son|Syaoran was sent by his father to Yuuko's shop because of Sakura-mama's dream about someone waiting for him in a different dimension
(2) timeline (A) -> son|Syaoran was sent by Yuuko to Clow Country and meet with Sakura-hime
(3) timeline (A) -> 7 days later, FWR appeared and put a death seal on Sakura-hime
(4) timeline (A) -> son|Syaoran was sent back to Clow Country once again by Yuuko and separated himself from his parents and his homeworld as a price
(5) timeline (A) -> 7 years later, the death seal activated and in the process of killing Sakura-hime.
(6) son|Syaoran was in deep regret and wish that he can go back 7 years ago to "pull" Sakura-hime's hand, so FWR wouldn't put a death seal on her
(7) timeline (A) -> Yuuko grant him this wish by time-reverse. The concept of time-reverse doesn't mean those 7 years are erased from history [I mean that would really be too much since that would affect EVERYTHING and EVERY dimension], so technically speaking it only affected whoever are involved by it [thus people who know about Sakura-hime's death seal are all affected by it]. timeline (B) for those involved one was created
timeline (A) got reversed back to 7 years ago AND that specific moment from Syaoran's wish to grab her hand was frozen in time by Yuuko [but only THAT cut-off Clow Ruin which is where little|Sakura reside in].
Timeline (B) was the result because of Syaoran's wish... Timeline (B) started right when timeline (A) for THAT specific event was frozen in time. So, Sakura-hime continue on to live a normal life with NO death seal or anything. In timeline (B), Syaoran de-age and become 7 years old again and which people who know about the "suppose FATE" of Sakura-hime are affected by this SINCE timeline (B) is attempting to lead to the future that wouldn't result as timeline (A)
However, since Syaoran would be the person who will "live" through the 7 years twice... thus a substitute, Watanuki was created to fill in Syaoran's place for timeline (A) in general.
HM... How should I say this... timeline (A) and timeline (B) DO existed at the same time [except the cut-off clow country since that one was frozen and cut-off from all other dimension] and thus son|Syaoran and Watanuki exist at the same time but displayed as 2 separate entity and 2 separate life for those 7 years. While Sakura-hime in a sense also separated into 2 entity and 2 separate future... BUT since timeline (A) of Sakura-hime is frozen so that she wouldn't get the death seal. Thus, timeline (B) Sakura-hime can lead a normal life meeting with C|Syaoran etc. BUT in reality, unlike son|Syaoran and Watanuki which are the same entity that lead to 2 different paths... Sakura-hime for BOTH timeline are really just the same person... and thus at certain point, IF nothing is changed once the time started again for timeline (A) and Sakura-hime STILL get the death seal on, then the "normal" timeline (B) would be once again display the same fate for Sakura-hime which is death.
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but yeah... this encore with the duality concept from fleur_cerisier-san
timeline A ......................... timeline B (no death seal)
cut-off clow country frozen at that event................ time continue on @ that moment
little|Sakura frozen in time before death seal.................. FWR didn't give death seal
little|Sakura frozen in time in Clow Ruin ...................... Sakura-hime continue to live and meet with C|Syaoran
Watanuki ...................... Syaoran
Fujitaka-archeologist .................... Clow-king
Nadashiko [status unknown for both timeline, most probably die]
timeline (A) cut-off time of clow country start again probably because of the "merging" of time between timeline (A) and timeline (B) since timeline B "caught up" with the actual time when the wish was made during timeline (A)... As I said since timeline (B) is attempting to rewrite timeline (A), thus what happen in timeline (B) with the feather left behind in Acid Tokyo... THAT also re-write the cut-off Clow Country that was frozen at that event since that was in timeline (A).
Well, I tried my best to write my thought about this mess, I don't know whether this make sense or not ;____; and thus merging of little|Sakura and big|Sakura also symbolize the merging of timeline A and timeline B [at THAT moment] and thus making the magical power of Sakura-hime to be doubled.
Anyway, I think THE easiest way to explain this or at least to me that may make sense would be. Just as Watanuki is an rare existance that is born as a result of time reverse... little|Sakura is sort of the same way too.
So, let's move to a timeline:
(1) timeline (A) -> son|Syaoran was sent by his father to Yuuko's shop because of Sakura-mama's dream about someone waiting for him in a different dimension
(2) timeline (A) -> son|Syaoran was sent by Yuuko to Clow Country and meet with Sakura-hime
(3) timeline (A) -> 7 days later, FWR appeared and put a death seal on Sakura-hime
(4) timeline (A) -> son|Syaoran was sent back to Clow Country once again by Yuuko and separated himself from his parents and his homeworld as a price
(5) timeline (A) -> 7 years later, the death seal activated and in the process of killing Sakura-hime.
(6) son|Syaoran was in deep regret and wish that he can go back 7 years ago to "pull" Sakura-hime's hand, so FWR wouldn't put a death seal on her
(7) timeline (A) -> Yuuko grant him this wish by time-reverse. The concept of time-reverse doesn't mean those 7 years are erased from history [I mean that would really be too much since that would affect EVERYTHING and EVERY dimension], so technically speaking it only affected whoever are involved by it [thus people who know about Sakura-hime's death seal are all affected by it]. timeline (B) for those involved one was created
timeline (A) got reversed back to 7 years ago AND that specific moment from Syaoran's wish to grab her hand was frozen in time by Yuuko [but only THAT cut-off Clow Ruin which is where little|Sakura reside in].
Timeline (B) was the result because of Syaoran's wish... Timeline (B) started right when timeline (A) for THAT specific event was frozen in time. So, Sakura-hime continue on to live a normal life with NO death seal or anything. In timeline (B), Syaoran de-age and become 7 years old again and which people who know about the "suppose FATE" of Sakura-hime are affected by this SINCE timeline (B) is attempting to lead to the future that wouldn't result as timeline (A)
However, since Syaoran would be the person who will "live" through the 7 years twice... thus a substitute, Watanuki was created to fill in Syaoran's place for timeline (A) in general.
HM... How should I say this... timeline (A) and timeline (B) DO existed at the same time [except the cut-off clow country since that one was frozen and cut-off from all other dimension] and thus son|Syaoran and Watanuki exist at the same time but displayed as 2 separate entity and 2 separate life for those 7 years. While Sakura-hime in a sense also separated into 2 entity and 2 separate future... BUT since timeline (A) of Sakura-hime is frozen so that she wouldn't get the death seal. Thus, timeline (B) Sakura-hime can lead a normal life meeting with C|Syaoran etc. BUT in reality, unlike son|Syaoran and Watanuki which are the same entity that lead to 2 different paths... Sakura-hime for BOTH timeline are really just the same person... and thus at certain point, IF nothing is changed once the time started again for timeline (A) and Sakura-hime STILL get the death seal on, then the "normal" timeline (B) would be once again display the same fate for Sakura-hime which is death.
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but yeah... this encore with the duality concept from fleur_cerisier-san
timeline A ......................... timeline B (no death seal)
cut-off clow country frozen at that event................ time continue on @ that moment
little|Sakura frozen in time before death seal.................. FWR didn't give death seal
little|Sakura frozen in time in Clow Ruin ...................... Sakura-hime continue to live and meet with C|Syaoran
Watanuki ...................... Syaoran
Fujitaka-archeologist .................... Clow-king
Nadashiko [status unknown for both timeline, most probably die]
timeline (A) cut-off time of clow country start again probably because of the "merging" of time between timeline (A) and timeline (B) since timeline B "caught up" with the actual time when the wish was made during timeline (A)... As I said since timeline (B) is attempting to rewrite timeline (A), thus what happen in timeline (B) with the feather left behind in Acid Tokyo... THAT also re-write the cut-off Clow Country that was frozen at that event since that was in timeline (A).
Well, I tried my best to write my thought about this mess, I don't know whether this make sense or not ;____; and thus merging of little|Sakura and big|Sakura also symbolize the merging of timeline A and timeline B [at THAT moment] and thus making the magical power of Sakura-hime to be doubled.
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Good explaination there, YamiSakura! Thanks. And also to everyone else!
Well, I'm not sure how Sakura should double up in power when originally only one Sakura was supposed to exist!
Well, I'm not sure how Sakura should double up in power when originally only one Sakura was supposed to exist!
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rajhardia wrote:Good explaination there, YamiSakura! Thanks. And also to everyone else!
Well, I'm not sure how Sakura should double up in power when originally only one Sakura was supposed to exist!
I am glad it actually make sense to you ^__^
As for the "double up in power", well... that's part of my theory/guess after I read Chapter 215 [so, it is not exactly official yet ^^]
Chapter 215 wrote:
Page 6
Fai: But... the Sakura-chan who we went on a journey with...
Fai: and the Sakura-chan who was preserved within the separated time...
Fai: Both of them possessed an incredible amount of magic... for that to be merged into one...!
(...)
Page 7
FWR: A body engraved with dimension (Big|Sakura)...
FWR: A magical power stored through the ages at the water's bed (little|Sakura inherit/gather those power because she was preserved all those time along with THAT feather's power which increase through ages)
FWR: and the true being with the capacities to inherit both.
FWR: I have them all!
BECAUSE of as I said there are 2 timeline in existance.... the feather power that's left behind in Acid Tokyo (Timeline B) sort of "become" the additional power that's preserve in Clow Ruin (Timeline A) that will be add onto when both Sakura are merged together.
ETA: I suppose you can say Acid Tokyo (timeline B) with the left behind feather... overwrite / become the power of the "actual" Clow Ruin (timeline A) since "Acid Tokyo = the past time of Clow Country"
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GREAT !! Thank you so much Yami Sakura for this awesome explanations ! It sure clarifies a lot!
I still have three short related questions :
1 - Why did you think Shaoran did not grab Sakura's hand in the timeline A?
2 - So in timeline B, it is believed that Shaoran grabbed Sakura's hand?
3 - I thought it was Fei Wong that granted the wish of Shaoran and not Yuuko. I am mistaken?
Once again, thanks for the clarifications ^^
I still have three short related questions :
1 - Why did you think Shaoran did not grab Sakura's hand in the timeline A?
2 - So in timeline B, it is believed that Shaoran grabbed Sakura's hand?
3 - I thought it was Fei Wong that granted the wish of Shaoran and not Yuuko. I am mistaken?
Once again, thanks for the clarifications ^^
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You mean the first time with little|Syaoran, right? Well, it is showed in this page:fleur_cerisier wrote:1 - Why did you think Shaoran did not grab Sakura's hand in the timeline A?
http://onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/196/07/
Just when little|Syaoran was about to grab her hand... he suddenly was reminded of that moment [that "Sakura looked up at him" scene] ... in which, reading back from the previous chapter... we learned that it was the time when Sakura told him she shouldn't be touched by anyone since she's in the middle of cleansing.
http://onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/190/03/
From what it is showed in Chapter 215... Syaoran pulled little|Sakura [that was supposed to reside at timeline A] out just before timeline A and timeline B merged together ... at least that's my understanding of what's happening in that chapter.fleur_cerisier wrote:2 - So in timeline B, it is believed that Shaoran grabbed Sakura's hand?
In chapter 201, FWR WAS about to grant the wish for Syaoran [notice the Clow Magic circle in which that's the magic power that FWR use]:fleur_cerisier wrote:3 - I thought it was Fei Wong that granted the wish of Shaoran and not Yuuko. I am mistaken?
http://onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/201/06/
But then Sakura-mama interfered in which her magic PWNED over FWR's magic [notice the Sakura Magic circle just as CCS]:
http://onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/201/07/
http://onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/201/08/
In which, that's when Yuuko "come in" saying that "I have the power to grant it, however..." and proceed in explaining to Syaoran about all the consequences and such about this "time-reverse" wish.
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YamiSakura wrote:But then Sakura-mama interfered in which her magic PWNED over FWR's magic [notice the Sakura Magic circle just as CCS]:
http://onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/201/07/
http://onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/201/08/
But wait...isn't that after she and CCS!Syaoran were in the tube? How could she do that?
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I don't think it's been said yet just when they entered the tube :/
She could have pwned FWR and then gone into the tube once TRC Syaoran had officially made his wish. There probably was a chance at some point that he might choose not to reverse time and why get yourself stuck in a tube suffering 14 years of horrible mostly off screen torment if you don't have to? :/
She could have
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I agree with you Tenshi, afterall, if CCSakura and Syaoran had rewound their time before all TRC begun it would'nt make sense to Watanuki.
Syaoran made his wish and THEN Watanuki was created >> Time was rewound >> Watanuki lived with his parents (CCS ones) >> Mysterious part when Watanuki lose his parents (which we know they entered in the tube and rewound their own time) >>Watanuki lives by his own while Syaoran tries to find a way to remove Sakura death seal.. and there goes on...
Thinking this way, we can assume they enter in the tube while Syaoran was seeking a way to remove the seal and Watanuki was living with them. The thing I don't get is why Touya and his family just left Watanuki and he lived wiht a tutor >.<
Syaoran made his wish and THEN Watanuki was created >> Time was rewound >> Watanuki lived with his parents (CCS ones) >> Mysterious part when Watanuki lose his parents (which we know they entered in the tube and rewound their own time) >>Watanuki lives by his own while Syaoran tries to find a way to remove Sakura death seal.. and there goes on...
Thinking this way, we can assume they enter in the tube while Syaoran was seeking a way to remove the seal and Watanuki was living with them. The thing I don't get is why Touya and his family just left Watanuki and he lived wiht a tutor >.<
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Ah, okay. That makes sense, thanks. :3
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