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Who is your fave of the seven seals? (And others)
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    Post by YamiSakura Sun 10 May 2009, 03:29

    Well, I found them once again being translated in the CHN forum ~~

    from 2ch wrote:220 最强の魔术
    すべては魔女を死なせたくないと思ったクロウとアゴのせいだった
    死の瞬间、死なせたくないと思っただけで魔女の刻を止めてしまったクロウ
    それを悔いたクロウはケロちゃん达に别れを告げねじ曲がったクロウ国へ旅立つ
    そして残った魔力と命をコピー复活の対価として托していた
    ちなみにコピーさくら复活の対価は魔女がこれまで店で人の愿いを叶え続けてきたこと

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    220 最强的魔法
    220 The most powerful magic

    一切都是不想让侑子死去的库洛和飞王的错
    Everything is the fault from Clow and FWR not wanting to let Yuuko pass away
    侑子死亡的瞬间,就因为不想让她死去,库洛令一时刻停止了
    At the moment before Yuuko die, Clow stopped time because he didn't want to let her die
    后来因此而后悔的库洛与小可他们告别,前往扭曲的玖楼国旅行
    Because of that Clow regret his action. He bid farewell to Kero-tachi (probably include Yue too), and went on a trip to the distorted Clow Country
    之后又付出了剩余的魔力与生命,作为令假狼复活的代价
    And then he also pay the price to revive Clone|Syaoran with the remaining of his life and magic power.
    另外假樱复活的代价,就是侑子“一直以来为来到店中的人们实现愿望”
    And as for the price to revive Clone|Sakura, it is "those wish that are granted to people that have came by the shop all these time"

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    Sorry, this is a speed translation ^^;; I hope it make sense... but all I will say is
    "What kind of storyline has this turn out to be??"
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    Post by Kyoki Sun 10 May 2009, 04:41

    Wow.... That makes me want to read the next chapter even more... I hope the next chapter comes out soon or I'm gonna go crazy with waiting. LOL!

    Thank you for posting this. ^.^
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    Post by Smile_For_Me Sun 10 May 2009, 04:43

    I knew everything was the Reed's fault, just didn't know why or how.....now the question is, what about Yuko??? Will she die, or is she dead now?
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    Post by Kyoki Sun 10 May 2009, 04:48

    I hope that Yuuko-sama isn't dead... And if she is dead, hopefully she will be able to come back somehow. T_T
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    Post by Hokuto-chan Sun 10 May 2009, 04:50

    Intresting. . . thanks for the spoilers.
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    Post by Seishirou Sun 10 May 2009, 05:20

    Thanks Yami!

    SO Clow gave his magic power to revive CloneSyaoran and Yuuko worked at the shop to revive CloneSakura...

    Though what about Eriol's power? O_O

    And will we see Kero in the next chapitre? :D~~
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    Post by amethyst-rose Sun 10 May 2009, 05:33

    Wow, more craziness XD Interesting though~ I hope the scans come early bahahaha...thanks for the update! ^^
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    Post by SakuraClowHIme200 Sun 10 May 2009, 06:56

    Wow this is really surprising, even though it was somehow hinted that it'd be Clow's fault. So what about the person Fei Wong wants to revive? AHHH I can't wait for the next chapter! Thank you so much for the spoiler ^^


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    Post by Kaeldri Sun 10 May 2009, 07:26

    hmm, Thank you very much for the spoilers. So, Clow was the one who revived Cloney.. Though I wonder how this will relate to everything, because if Clow in fact didn't die what about Eriol? Did he clone himself and alter his shape to look differently? That's the ony thing I can think of that would explain it. I feel bad for Yuuko...So many people want her to stay yet, I think she would rather leave. (At least, that's what I think her 'wish' is.) Anyway, can't wait to see the chapter, this upcoming week is going to be great. =D
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    Post by Rayna Sun 10 May 2009, 13:00

    So, Clow was unable to accept death, and held Yuuko alive ...she must have been a very valuable person. Although, I still can't place Clow in the same rank as FWR.

    I believe Yuuko must die ... but this also leads me to believe that her ending isn't the "unhappy" one. I bet after so long she wishes to die, being the center of all this pain, all of this hurt...

    So, does this mean Clow Reed is still alive? You mean after all this time, he went to the distored Clow Country, and helped raise a girl who'd have an identical counterpart as his card's new master? Didn't he lecture Yue about accepting death? Sort of hypocritical on his part, no?

    When did Clow die, exactly? Especially if he contributed in the revival of our beloved Clone|Syaoran? How confusing.

    It sort of reminds me of the Harry Potter storyline - where we find many unknown faults in Dumbledore (the long time hero and advisor to our main character, Harry).

    I suppose I have to wait patiently for this chapter to FINALLY show up. ^-^;;; But yeah, how did Clow split into two beings? I mean, this chapter doesn't specifically say that Clow didn't die after being in the distorted Clow Country. It's possible he returned to his own world, and used his magic to split into two beings. I'm just surprised Eriol didn't appear to know anything ... although at the time of the events happening, I guess it didn't matter.
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    Post by chibi-chan Sun 10 May 2009, 21:17

    Yami-san, thanks so much fer de spoilers bounce
    ah...so, imma was right, de person whom Clow was trying ta revive was Yuuko-sama after all. And it's so weird how FWR played in dis part as well and, wasn't he always against her since in de beginning? O.o And if Yuuko knew FWR was trying ta revive her, why would she let him got away with his crime of what he did to the gang and jas fer a sake of a wish? O.o

    之后又付出了剩余的魔力与生命,作为令假狼复活的代价
    And then he also pay the price to revive Clone|Syaoran with the remaining of his life and magic power.
    This is de most confusion part. So, Clow Reed actually gave de remaining of his life and magical power ta Cloney Syaoran (so it's not papa Syaoran after all ???) O.o
    Aww..chibi cannot wait fer de actual scans flowerhat
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    Post by Raj-kun Sun 10 May 2009, 22:01

    I see where Clamp is taking us- Nothing, no one in this world is perfect. Even the most powerful people who are not evil.

    What about Eriol, huh? And Fujitaka? Was it all a lie? Fujitaka was never the split part of Clow?
    Can't wait to see the chapter! And also I can't wait to see the intermingling of CCS and Tsubasa.


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    Post by Syaoran Sun 10 May 2009, 23:01

    My brain... o_x But finally we're going to get our answers on Clow's mistery!
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    Post by Misty Sun 10 May 2009, 23:44

    Thank you so much for the spoiler YamiSakura ^O^

    I really hope Clamp know what they're doing Neutral . To be honest, I feel really freaking frustrated that Clamp is changing to the whole original CCS plots. What has CCS story become now?? Not a sweet story about a young girl who captured the cards but a....well, how can I explain it? a crazy and lie plot twist sequel to Tsubasa TRC 220 Spoiler 854197 sorry if my message offended some people, but I'm just trying to express my POV how I really feel about this latest chapter. I just wish Clamp would freaking leave the orginal CCS plots alone, leave it the way it was before. Anyways, I guess, if Clamp didn't change the plots in CCS, we never get a chance to know CCS couple's son, Kuro, Fei, especially, Clow's past life. But still...I'm not too happy about it ew

    Anyway, about how did Clow die? He didn't exactly die in CCS world, that is how Clamp is trying to clarify to us I suppose. He might have fooled Yue and Kero that he was dead in their world, but in fact, and he send himself to the distorted Clow World to solve the problem. And from what I'm guessing, Clow felt regret from stopping time and failed to revive Yuuko. And so, he felt a great grief over the loss of loosing Yuuko, he decided to commit suicide..?? who knows *shrugs*

    And I agree with Chibi-chan. It's so weird to learn FWR was in fact, trying to revive Yuuko all along. He has been acting so against her and he even fought with her. What the hell with all these Clow and FWR couldn't let Yuuko pass away. Isn't Clow is FWR enemy? Ok, so I guess, Clamp is trying to tell us " haha, you're being fooled, FWR is the nicest dude, he is Clow Reed best mate" oh yeah? even that is really the case, I still won't feel a pity for him and nothing going to change my neutral thoughts about ass chin ew

    I might as well, wait for the chapter to come out XD
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    Post by Rayna Mon 11 May 2009, 01:31

    Misty wrote:T


    He has been acting so against her and he even fought with her. What the hell with all these Clow and FWR couldn't let Yuuko pass away. Isn't Clow is FWR enemy? Ok, so I guess, Clamp is trying to tell us " haha, you're being fooled, FWR is the nicest dude, he is Clow Reed best mate" oh yeah? even that is really the case, I still won't feel a pity for him and nothing going to change my neutral thoughts about ass chin

    Well, aside from Yuuko simply telling Watanuki that FWR was harvesting souls, and bringing "Syaoran's" parents to the battlefield - FWR and Yuuko never appeared angry at each other. Yuuko seemed more to talk out of simplicity, stating things like: "FWR must never accomplish his wish ..." "It can't be done..." ect.

    I suppose that after some time, Clow Reed realised the error of his ways and moved away from FWR. It's entirely possible that at one time, perhaps FWR and Clow Reed both promised to stop at nothing to revive Yuuko.

    It's just odd, however because Yuuko seemed to reveal some amount of affection towards Clow Reed - especially when she spoke of him to Watanuki in the starting chapters of XxxHolic. If Clow Reed and Yuuko were potentially a couple - where does FWR fit? Was he a rival who joined forces with Clow to stall her death? Or was he always a good friend of Clow, a powerful ally?

    I'm not sure if FWR could ever obtain my mercy; although Yuuko does appear to be a perfect, and loveable character to desire her revival. ^^;; Although CLAMP has failed to provide any other acceptable answers to justify FWR being such a top-notch guy. Maybe that isn't their goal, anyways.

    OH! And where our my manners?! THANK YOU KINDLY YAMISAKURA! It's helped to tie me over until the actual chapter is released. ^.^
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    Post by Aiko-chan Mon 11 May 2009, 15:50

    Wow, thank you very much!

    And I would agree that Yuuko never seemed to hate FWR. . .she seemed almost wistful when she said "There will be no second time". . .I think she really wanted to be saved, but realized the consequences of the actions. I think she just doesn't want FWR to destroy the universe in order to save her. . .but that's just my interpretation.

    And. . .If Clow didn't really die in CCS, then. . .how do we explain Eriol and Fujitaka? Weren't they supposed to be his reincarnations? :/

    And also, if one character is supposed to have an unhappy ending. . .I'm really thinking it might be Yuuko. . . .
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    Post by CuteSherry Mon 11 May 2009, 18:58

    Better then *not dying in CCS* I would say that Clow Reed did not die at the moment we thought he did, but later...Even if Sakura never said a word about how her 'father' King Clow died, from the hints Clamp gave us we could say that while in Clow Country he must have foreseen what would happen and, from the flashes of the future he saw, took the decision to go to Yuuko and gave a payment in advance to save Clone|Syaoran's life in the future; he then left Yuuko's shop and went back to his home in tomoeda and 'died', doing his very last dying enchantment: dividing his soul in 2.

    Anyway, at this point of the manga, all I wish for now is for CCS|SxS and their son to get out of this mess safely. Things degenerated too far to hope for some all happy pinkish ending, this is just not happening...

    In the end, we learned from those spoilers that
    1-TRC|Clow and CCS|Clow are one and the same, meaning that his 'blood related descendants' are indeed the CCS crew, and that the SxS that appeared are not some parallel identical existences from a twin dimension with the exact same powers or whatever.
    and 2-that the couple Clone|SxS will be revived thanks to Clow Reed and Yuuko's shop = happy ending for the clones, meaning....that the 'one with the unhappy ending' Clamp announced a couple of years ago is still to be decided and Yuuko seems to be an unfortunate candidate (but I have the feeling Watanuki will do something about her in Holic), together with CCS|SxS and their son (who do not have a 'watanuki' to save them, the boy already got his hands full with Yuuko ;____;) and no, I do not included FWR in the count.
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    Post by kurorintenshi Tue 12 May 2009, 02:22

    Thank you Yami-chan =D

    chibi-chan wrote: And it's so weird how FWR played in dis part as well and, wasn't he always against her since in de beginning? O.o And if Yuuko knew FWR was trying ta revive her, why would she let him got away with his crime of what he did to the gang and jas fer a sake of a wish? O.o

    It did seem like they were enemies but so did Zagato and Emeraude at the start of MKR. I remember how that went T_T

    Maybe she just couldn't stop him? :/ He's not really coming across as a guy who gives up on getting what he wants =P
    A whole bunch of the wishes that came through the shop were a result of the groups travels and reviving the clone/Sakura probably isn't cheap. So maybe if the group hadn't travelled there wouldn't have been enough wishes for Yuuko to grant in order to "pay" for it?

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