XXXHolic 170 spoilers

Many of you will exclaim that there shouldn't be any new chapters, following the schedule published, but there are spoilers nonetheless, and they come from a usually very reliable source : 2ch thread.

TRANSLATION: translation by starlady38

New color pictures were announced for the upcoming XXXHolic chapter (in december...)

Ah... Chibi is so confused But Yami-san said the schedule should be out at the end of November..why is it that the spoiler came out so early?... Thank you Sherry-chan! Man, let's hope these spoilers are not fake.. ..

o__O Hm... strange that very few people got the "changed" schedule of xxxholic that I updated in the forum 2 days ago [seriously, maybe I need to make a new topic every time instead of just through the reply ^^;;]

CuteSherry wrote:Please keep in mind they *might* end up fake! (but let's hope they won't...)

and Nope... it shouldn't be fake because it is written by "bare-san" ^___^ [*cough* I have learned my lesson by now and know how to distinguish "bare-san" ]

Anyhow... Thanks CuteSherry-san for posting the spoiler!!! Of course, I really have no idea want the spoiler is about *sigh* BUT again with my very limited JPN skill :P

It strangely talks about a telephone convo between fortune teller and Yuuko could it be some "deeper" meaning behind the initial fortune that the fortune teller initially gave Watanuki [about his parents] ??

*Being hopeful that there's more about Watanuki's parents coming from the fortune teller*

Thanks for the spoilers! Ah, I wonder what Yuko and the fortune teller are talking about? It's either Watanuki's future, Watanuki's parents, or anything that has to do with Watanuki.

Yeah spoilers!
Maybe Yuuko and fortune teller lady are talking about Kohane...

Spoiler Translation is up from starlady38

Spoiler:

woohoo!!! WE HAVE HOPE AGAIN!!!!

Ok, so I guess this means CCSakura and Syaoran are really dead, and they're resting in peace somewhere in heaven. God, these spoiler are so tempting... Clamp has truly killed off our beloved couple

mistyco26 wrote:Ok, so I guess this means CCSakura and Syaoran are really dead, and they're resting in peace somewhere in heaven. God, these spoiler are so tempting... Clamp has truly killed off our beloved couple

Why is everything I posted recently tend to be getting a drastically different reaction in this forum?? O__O
*cough* like when I was updated the xxxholic schedule 2 days ago, most people thought that I was emphasizing that CLAMP will continue the break longer while I was trying to say that "they CHANGED their mind and would have xxxholic chapter 170 later this week" *cough*

Sorry... for getting off topic... BUT... I mean the spoiler is suggesting otherwise, isn't it?? or is my interpretation really was horrible

"When she told his future for him before. She told him that his parents were resting in peace, but she felt when Kohane came to ask later, that wasn't the case, that they were somewhere else, beyond this world."

When I saw the "somewhere else, beyond this world"... I immediately thought another world which is outside of "xxxholic world" [or just possibly a different dimension]... BUT for goodness sake, the fortune teller isn't just emphasis it as "in heaven", or is she??

I also think those spoilers are really positive for SxS ^^

I can imagine what happened:
Ohkawa, after a long day of work, goes out of the studio and prepare to get a drink...then she feels a stare and suddenly turns...but don't see anyone. She turns back and continue but then, in a alley, she starts hearing footsteps coming closer and closer *tud tud tud tuuuud* and a cold sweat freezes her. Still, she forced her rigid members to move and goes the opposite way to realize, she is completely surrounded and starts running!
But finally, at a corner, she was faced with 'them'!! O___O *sounds of squeaking violins in the BG*
.................................................
Next morning, a very tired looking Ohkawa *with huge panda eyes* enters and greet the others members, who are weird out to see her in such a....strained fashion and still wearing the same clothes as yesterday....and Ohkawa starts: '"I had a revelation last night, you know the thing about SxS dying? I think I will change that..."
*Silence*
Everyone understood.

*msg: don't underestimate the power of bloodily pissed off fans MOUAHAHAHAHAH -Ohkawa ended up being cooked up all night by the raged fans until she made a blood oath to revive SxS, even if she has to go back on previous affirmations, like having the old lady from v01 goes back on her words. Who cares if it's too far fetched? Just have them survive however you like and they both better be all good with a shiny rosy skin after all this! What?! To allow some scratches and psychological pain?!! 'the Hell?!! OooRRyyyaaahhh!!!-*

Super lame scenario but it's been too long since I've last wrote made up stuffs aha~

On a more serious note, knowing that Clamp always think about the final END of their mangas, before building up events that would lead to that end, I would say SxS were never meant to die in the first place. But Clamp sure went sadistic on them and made them suffer like Hell *glaring at Clamp and using telepathy 'watch out ladies, you know what's is waiting for you if....'*

Aw that's cute, but it's somewhat getting off topic Sherry-chan....

Okay the spoilers, does this dream butterfly have anything to do with the "If the dream does not end" thing? Or something else? Also, I don't want to belive that the CCS couple are dead, when I read the part that the spoilers said that his parents were resting in peace, I think my stomache twitsted up a bit...

Ahahaha! Mistyco-chan was just being pessimistic everyone . Chibi think CCS couple are still alive, like Yami-san said, there's still hope since Kohane mentioned that wasn't the case, that they were somewhere else, beyond this world And Chibi agree with Sherry-chan on this, CCS was never meant to die in the first place, it was awefully cruel that Clamp making us suffer through every single chapter after knowing who were Watanuki's true parents.

chibi-chan wrote:Ahahaha! Mistyco-chan was just being pessimistic everyone .

I wasn't Chibi chan!!X__X I'm just confused since they explicitly stated heaps of times that Watanuki's parents are dead and Butt Chin said that Syaoran's wish will bring a distortion to his parents and I thought that yes, this would mean CCS couple are really dead but I didn't know they're resting in peace somewhere else beyond Holic world! If Clamp wanted to tell us they are possible still alive, why did they keep on repeating they are truly dead and making us suffer about the whole concept???:/

mistyco26 wrote:If Clamp wanted to tell us they are possible still alive, why did they keep on repeating they are truly dead and making us suffer about the whole concept???:/

Clamp likes to toy our mind, Mistyco-chan, this is how they became famous n__n.

Aww! So maybe SxS alive!? ~starts praying~ Maybe Ohkawa DID change her mind and decided to just make us think they're dead?
Because I think, like some of you here, that they really weren't supposed to be dead, and now they're just in another far beatiful world which they can come back from~!

She told him that his parents were resting in peace, but she felt when Kohane came to ask later,
That that wasn't the case, that they were somewhere else, beyond this world.

Hm.

So, what does this mean? That they're dead, but NOT resting in peace? That their poor souls have been confined/imprisoned in abother dimension?

Or, are they actually ALIVE, but residing in another world/dimension, which is why they are mistaken for dead?

Maybe CCS||Sakura and Syaoran weren't defeated as easily as we thought. Or maybe they traded their physical bodies for Watanuki's sake ...

Rayna wrote:

Hm.

So, what does this mean? That they're dead, but NOT resting in peace? That their poor souls have been confined/imprisoned in abother dimension?

Or, are they actually ALIVE, but residing in another world/dimension, which is why they are mistaken for dead?

Maybe CCS||Sakura and Syaoran weren't defeated as easily as we thought. Or maybe they traded their physical bodies for Watanuki's sake ...

'Something', whatever it is, definitely happened to SxS, but while Clamp have been torturing us all along telling us repeatedly they were dead, in the latest chapters they also started *contradictorily* implying they weren't :
1-we were told that Watanuki's memories were not completely true and that FWR changed some of them: meaning that the memory of his parents dying might very likely have been altered.
2-SxS left a hidden message in their 'son' name: that they would go and seek him out: it implies they will go for him/help him in the future (meaning now)
3-the old lady changed her initial divination and revealed that his parents were not 'reposing in peace' (=in Heaven...) but 'beyond this world': knowing all the deals about duality, timelines, Dream and Reality, no surprise here...let's not forget that this old lady might be skilled, but she is no 'Sakura', no 'FWR', no 'Clow Reed' nor a 'Yuuko', to put it simply she is not some super gifted powerful magician; for her to make a mistake and not have a completely clear view of events is no surprise, especially considering the complexity of the situation...

At this point, I think we got enough info to know Clamp didn't just toss CCS|SxS aside and killed them off ^^;
I can't yet to see their side of the story ^^

Exactly what Chibi thought! There's no way, CCSakura and Syaoran are dead! It could be possible that they probably hiding somewhere in Holic world, who knows...*shrug*

Hokuto-chan wrote:Okay the spoilers, does this dream butterfly have anything to do with the "If the dream does not end" thing?..

The butterfly appears from Yuuko's fingertip and gamboling with Hakuro's pipesmoke it flutters toward the moon So what does this really mean? Maybe the butterfly is trying to tell us that CCS couple are still alive or that the dream will end, and Watanuki/Syaoran will likely see his parents again?

well, the butterfly thing i didn't understand.
but i'm pretty curious to know if SxS are alive.
personally, i think they are.
because when clap gives us these little clues, something MUST be happening

Probably...you never know, it might turns out to be another one of their infamous twist and we're going to loose hope again..Hopefully not

I really hope CCS! Sakura and Syaoran are alive, in another world but alive...
thanks for the spoilers

spoiler pics are out http://ikesanfromfrneore.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-1482.html

Thank you Unluckyfellow-san! I wonder what they're saying here

Kyaa~! Thank you very much~! ^0^ Now I really-really-really have much more hope~!

Thanks so much for the spoiler and the...funny discussion. I really like your story YamiSakura-chan^^. But Is it normal, that spoiler are that long? It seems too much like that-is exactly-what-our-fans-want-to-read-stuff. Clamp would not do this, would they? Hmmm...dunno

Well, I've read Ladydarkmoon LJ entry today and she said the scans should be out this friday. Hopefully, it should be out by then