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    Post by Syaoran Tue 14 Apr 2009, 02:08

    RAWs wrote:HQ RAW by ladydarkmoon (Worship her with all your might <3)
    RAW by Heiji-sama (Read Online at Mangahelpers)
    Translations wrote:Translation by Kazushi-sama (Pt-eng'd by me)
    Translation by starlady38
    Translation by CarlosNet
    Scanlations wrote:Scanlation by pi_te_ku
    Scanlation by Fairy Team
    Schedule wrote:04/01 - Shonen Magazine #18 - Chapter 217
    04/08 - Shonen Magazine #19 - Chapter 218
    04/15 - Shonen Magazine #20 - Chapter 219

    04/22 - Shonen Magazine #21 & #22 - No Tsubasa scheduled
    05/06 - Shonen Magazine #23 - No Tsubasa Scheduled (New break)
    05/13 - Shonen Magazine #24 - Chapter 220 (Last chapitre from volume 27) (It'll be back on issue #24 according to this Chapitre)

    Enjoy!


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    Post by cherrybloms Tue 14 Apr 2009, 02:47

    thank you so much,syaoran!!!!!!!
    this chapter is really awesome,a lot of things happen and the fight is so great
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    Post by amethyst-rose Tue 14 Apr 2009, 02:59

    Yay~! Thanks Syaoran for the update on the chapter! love early chapters ^-^~

    asdfalsdfanlsdfknalsdfansldf!!!
    Lots happening in this one but best of all...c-cloney is baaaaaack~~~!!! ;____;!!!
    CLAMP must've receieved all the hate mail after ch 210 lawl XD

    Wah, 3 week break! x_x Haha, wow it's sure cutting it close though XD! Vol 27 comes out 2 days later with the 2nd OAD~ that is made of win!
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    Post by Syaoran Tue 14 Apr 2009, 03:06

    I'll post the translation shortly, brb ;)

    Kudos for Kazushi-sama for translating this into portuguese!

    ----

    [1]
    Splash:A long path has been walked on----
    just because of this very moment

    Chapitre 219 - The inherited magic

    [2]
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    [3]
    ---

    [4]
    Syao: Fuuka!! (Petals of Wind!!)

    [5]
    Fay: Syaoran!!

    [6 and 7]
    ---

    [8]
    ---

    [9]
    ---

    [10]
    ---

    [11]
    FWR: This mahoujin---
    --- it's from Clow...!?


    [12]
    FWR: No, it's Clow magic itself!!


    [13]
    FWR: Why can you use it!?


    [14 and 15]
    Yuuko: Because it's something that Clow delivered to this boy.

    [16]
    ---

    [17]
    C!Syaoran: This... is...

    Yuuko: Inside a dream.

    [18]
    C!Syao: I...
    In that moment...

    Yuuko: Yes.
    You fell into Fei Wang's hand...
    ... and teared away.

    [19]
    C!Syao: So...
    why...?

    Yuuko: Because you are something that was created.
    You won't die. Only disappear.
    It's the same thing with this child.

    [20]
    C!Syao: Sa...kura...

    [21]
    Yuuko: Exactly because of that...
    ... before disappearing completely...
    ... I brought the bodies from you two here.
    You were brought along with the heart that lies within this body.

    [22]
    Yuuko: And Sakura-hime...
    ... came with the soul that turned into petals, her memories...
    ... and the body that Fei Wang based himself to copy.

    [23]
    Yuuko: He...
    when copied, thought that the body disappeared because it couldn't resist to his copying.

    C!Syao: Why...
    Did we come here...?

    Yuuko: ...choose.
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    Post by kurorintenshi Tue 14 Apr 2009, 04:15

    Yay thanks for the early chapter~

    And yay for Syaoran and the guys actually doing something! Whoot whoot!
    Plus I'm really glad that r!Sakura is sorta maybe not dead. At least not disappeared anyway :/
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    ... before disappearing completely...
    ... I brought the bodies from you two here.
    You were brought along with the heart that lies within this body.
    Does that mean that Yuuko's dissappeared? D:
    I wonder if it means that Yuuko herself was a clone from the beginning :/
    That would just break my brain 13

    A three week break?! And they leave it there?!
    Clamp is so mean T_T
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    Post by Sakura_fai Tue 14 Apr 2009, 04:35

    But still! OH! Cloney and C! Sakura get to be together! ^.^ For that, I'm glad. :3

    But hey! It's better than it still being stuck at the rescuing part.
    Saw some of the scans on mangahelpers, but then my computer ran into some problems. T.T

    But wow, I saw Papa Syaoran with R! Syaoran. Gotta say, that looks so cool! Can't wait for the scanlations! XD
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    Post by Smile_For_Me Tue 14 Apr 2009, 04:38

    I knew CLAMP would never let me down....even has some "hint" of humor in this chapter to...

    Kurogane's sword was rather funny, but then again, he had to grab on to the mage so he wouldn't get taken away(Fall away?). For some reason, I just found it funny.
    I feel sorry for Mokona's ears...
    Other then that....
    I LOVED IT ALL. The whole "Clow" Group is back. And I don't care how many Sakura's and Syaoran's they are.
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    Post by Syaoran Tue 14 Apr 2009, 04:56

    Rejoice, because starlady's translation is out. :)

    Well, at least they didn't change Cloney's clothes. Can't say the same for C!Sakura, though. >_>
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    Post by Reflection Tue 14 Apr 2009, 05:22

    exicited CLONEY!!!

    ZOMFG!!!

    IT'S MY CLONEY!!

    love-laugh

    ;w;

    I LOVE YOU, CLAMP.
    /caps lock

    Ahhh~ I am so happy now!
    his look when he sees Sakura is so heartbreaking. ;~; <3333
    *dances around*

    ...
    wait.
    They're in the dream of the butterfly, right...? And doesn't that have to end?? 19
    ffffff oh noes.

    well...a few panels of C!SyaoSaku makes me happy enough, I won't worry about it... 0_0;
    *foreboding feeling*
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    Post by YamiSakura Tue 14 Apr 2009, 05:36

    ^^;;; I think I should mention it here .... BUT...
    You DO NOT need to put your response for THIS chapter in THIS topic in spoiler UNLESS you have THE urge of doing it .... It is NOT require here sweat I believe there're some misunderstanding from LAST TIME when I said something about it in previous chapters!! Sorry for causing confusion among members Embarassed *I will undo the spoiler*


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    On a different note,
    Syaoran wrote:[12]
    FWR: No, it's Clow magic itself!!
    [13]
    FWR: Why can you use it!?
    [14 and 15]
    Yuuko: Because it's something that Clow delivered to this boy.
    Um... so does that mean Cloney has Clow Power now??? *why did Clow delivered his power to Cloney??* HM... seems like even if he returned the magic power back to Fai, he will still be one powerful being with Clow Power ^^
    Hm... I hope that the next chapter we can get some perspectives and what's been happening with Cloney since then and his choice [I am sure he is going to side with the gang :D]. AND so, THAT is what C|Sakura mean before she disappeared that "as long as the 'original' is fine, they won't be gone too ^^"
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    Post by Kit-chan Tue 14 Apr 2009, 06:38

    It's always cheap to bring back a character if you already had the balls to kill them off.


    BUT I DON'T CARE!!! YAY CLONEY!!!



    THough if they pull a Kingdom Hearts and merge Cloney with R!Syaoran or something, THEN I will be mad.
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    Post by unluckyfellow Tue 14 Apr 2009, 07:07

    Wow that's early....
    The Clones are back!
    So Yuuko isn't in holic anymore because she has a full-time job in Tsubasa...confused
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    Post by YanirPooch Tue 14 Apr 2009, 07:25

    they are alive? ZOMG NO WAYYYYY?!!!!!!! OMG!!! exicited
    i cant even express msyelf now i cant belive they actually alive? WTH!!!
    i cant wait to see clone sakura alive and talking again 2 ^^ it will be soo happy :) omg i loove clamp!!
    but i agree reviving someone is pretty cheap :3 but this is soo diffrent *O*!!!!! woohoo!!!!!! yeyeyeye
    *running down the road screaming THEY R ALIVE!!!!!*
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    Post by Seishirou Tue 14 Apr 2009, 07:37

    YamiSakura wrote:Um... so does that mean Cloney has Clow Power now??? *why did Clow delivered his power to Cloney??* HM... seems like even if he returned the magic power back to Fai, he will still be one powerful being with Clow Power ^^

    So if we anylise it, if Cloney has the Clow magic itself, does that mean that Eriol and Fujitaka gave their power to him, or Cloney is just using Clow magic like a lot of people has done? I mean, it has been said that is Clow magic itself, so Clone has got the Clow Power? He really would become powerfull with that!

    Also, if the original Sakura body was kept safe by Yuuko, does that mean that we have two perfect bodies now? I mean, Clone Sakura had a broken leg, but since her body was merged with the original one from the past (frozen time), I guess it would be perfect now and we have the other original one that was kept safe with Yuuko (the one that wasn't destroyed by FWR magic), so we have two perfect bodies waiting for souls? Suspect
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    Post by YamiSakura Tue 14 Apr 2009, 08:44

    Hmmm.... reading Chibiyuuto-kun comment for the chapter... I wonder if I am interpretating it wrong or not?? huh

    chibiyuuto-kun wrote:Call me stupid but I don't get what's so OMG about Clow passing on his powers to Syaoran. First of all, it was to chinese!Syaoran, right? Jr.'s father? It's a bit confusing.

    So, who is "using" the Clow Magic?? papa|Syaoran? or when Yuuko has brought Cloney back in the game [I mean to help with this situation XD]

    As for the 2 perfect body... I suppose... it is saying that WHEN FWR was attempting to clone Sakura-hime at that time, he thought that he LOST the original Sakura-hime body but the fact is "Yuuko 'stole/took' the original body away from FWR and kept her safe" in which when everythings are over... both the real and clone Sakura can return to their respect bodies!?

    -------------------------------------------------------
    ETA: And I seriously am going to have a brain-dead if Chibiyuuto's theory is true x__x
    chibiyuuto wrote:I just saw this freaking brilliant and twisted theory that the "parents" could actually be the clones! I don't know much about it, but it would fit perfectly? I could totally see CLAMP doing this.

    We would have one less pair of Sakura and Syaoran, they would be the ones from the opening scene, and the heroes saying the day would actually be the main characters of the series.

    If that turns out to be the case, I think the scene with Yuuko in the dream with cloney is directly related to it (it might be then that Clow's powers will be given to him. CONSIDERING THE THEORY HE IS DADDY SYAORAN, of course).

    If that turns out to NOT be the case, CLAMP better find a good fitting explanation for this extra new pair of Sakura and Syaoran. Mind you, I think they are looking too much Deus ex machina.

    I think it would be cool, and it would fall under Ohkawa's twists category, lol.
    Of course, I am not saying his theory is right or wrong... Actually, I don't really know what to think about it ... my brain is screaming at me : STOP!!
    it is so bad coming from me but I am seriously, utterly confused by all of these mess!? All these time/space going on all different direction are seriously breaking my head!! IF this theory turn out as what Ohkawa has planned x___X it reminded me of : Do the egg come first? or chicken come first?


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    Post by Seishirou Tue 14 Apr 2009, 09:12

    Well Yami, about the Sakura question that's just what I also argued above. I guess both Sakura will get their respective and PERFECT bodies.


    About what Chibiyuuto wrote, I also saw it and, although it's totally crazy, it has Ohkawa style. I just think it wouldn't be this way cause it would be totally non-sense. I mean, "my dad is my clone?" it's the same as "I'm my dad". It sure would be so cheap explanation I guess and we all know Okhawa can do even better.

    I also thought that in fact who was using the Clow magic, at first time I read, was indeed Father Syaoran, but I got my mind all messed up after reading everyone coments.. so yes, totally brain frying!
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    Post by YamiSakura Tue 14 Apr 2009, 09:15

    since you have replied... I will just do this ETA after your reply
    *note* I haven't read your reply yet


    ETA2: Actually... it wouldn't make sense o__O That would mean son|Syaoran is a even more RARE existence than Watanuki angelstar2 because Clone|Syaoran is a being cloned from son|Syaoran, if he wasn't cloned up by FWR... then son|Syaoran wouldn't exist since according to Chibiyuuto's theory, son|Syaoran is Clone|Syaoran's son .... 2
    Before Clone|Syaoran was cloned then where did father|Syaoran came from and even more where did son|Syaoran came from x__X OR is Ohkawa just playing a big mess of time reverse after another time reverse after another time reverse within TRC ;____; My brain is now officially dead...


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    Post by Shaolan Tue 14 Apr 2009, 09:25

    I also have this theory. I though "well, when these two are appearing now, and they look so young, they could be the clones. But well, the clones do not live, nor are they dead. They are just there or there are just not there. That is what Yuuko said, there are just creations. But, well, if it is like this, can they both create life? They would create a life out of dead materia.

    Good example with the egg and the chicken^^. Cause I don't know where this story should start. If FWR hadn't planned his stuff, the clones would not have been there, so the child would not have been there, so nothing could have happen to the child, the parents could not foresee what will happen and so they could not prepare. There is just a little peice of the puzzle thats seems to be missing. And I think, we'll get it and maybe we have to put all the pieces in a new order^^
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    Post by SakuraClowHIme200 Tue 14 Apr 2009, 09:43

    That chapter is so AWESOME ^^ Thanks for sharing, C!Syao and Saku are BACK !!! :) Our beloved cloneys are totally back love-laugh Thank you sooo so much Clamp :3


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    Post by YamiSakura Tue 14 Apr 2009, 10:37

    Shaolan wrote:But well, the clones do not live, nor are they dead. They are just there or there are just not there. That is what Yuuko said, there are just creations.
    starlady38 wrote:page 19
    Clone: Nevertheless...
    Why...

    Yuuko: Because you are a created thing,
    You do not die, but merely disappear.
    I just thought of something and of course "real-world logic"-wise, it wouldn't make sense... BUT...
    Though really now, what exactly is the different between "they won't die" vs. "they would only disappear"??

    They can be "brought" back by someone anytime through magic because they are clone?? And that after they were brought back, they can still retain their own "previous" memories?? huh If that's the case, wouldn't that mean a "living" clone is better than a human o__O because once a human die, they will never be able to revive.
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    Post by Just_A_Shinigami Tue 14 Apr 2009, 13:22

    *haven't post in a while ^^;;*

    YamiSakura wrote:Though really now, what exactly is the different between "they won't die" vs. "they would only disappear"??

    I guess "disappear" means that both of the clone's soul and body would disappear, unlike when humans die, their souls exit the body (but the body is still there) and might become ghosts/maybe reborn as a human. So I think >>when the clones "die", their whole existence is gone, but when humans die, the souls still live<< is what Ookawa-sensei tries to point out...
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    Post by Rayna Tue 14 Apr 2009, 15:50

    Just_A_Shinigami wrote:
    YamiSakura wrote:Though really now, what exactly is the different between "they won't die" vs. "they would only disappear"??

    an. So I think >>when the clones "die", their whole existence is gone, but when humans die, the souls still live<< is what Ookawa-sensei tries to point out...

    That's sort of how I take it, too.

    But I'm pretty confused, and I'm having a difficult time looking at the scans and transfering the translation to the story (I'm tired.) ... so I'll get back to you once it's all together.

    But, I see my lovely Cloney, and I can't be happier. ^^

    I must be a sucker for this sort of thing; it just seems so corny to bring characters back to life (then again, they already pulled that stunt with the CCS being Watanuki's parents and hinting they were dead) But I also find it so much worse to kill of two main characters and replace them with duplicates... so I'm happier. Good job, CLAMP.
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    Post by Yumemi Tue 14 Apr 2009, 22:02

    Just to let you know, cnet128's translations are out. :)
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    Post by kurorintenshi Tue 14 Apr 2009, 22:06

    Scanlations are out at Mangafox
    http://www.mangafox.com/manga/tsubasa_reservoir_chronicle/c219/

    Wow I actually beat Sei-chan? O_o
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    Post by chibi-chan Tue 14 Apr 2009, 22:52

    Yumemi wrote:Just to let you know, cnet128's translations are out. :)

    Now that makes more sense! Cnet's translation made so much sense. Chibi didn't get Yuuko last statement in de other translation, she said "choose" but in Cnet's translation, she said "to choose"- dat a bit less confused isn't it? :P
    And hoeeeeeeeeeee! Ma Cloney is ALIVE!!! love-laugh Ya really alive Cloney Syao :3 it's good ta know, cloney Sakura is alive too :3. Shame of Clamp fer making us wasting our tears >.> We thought that they were gone fer good >.<

    Anyways....Clamp is killing ma brain cells >.<, cos "I am" so confused with the whole thing such as " Clow gave his magic to him" hypno Lemme get this straight, so, papa Syaoran is Cloney Syao? Because papa Syao was using Clow magic and attacked Fei Wong? Yuuko came in and gave us the detail that Clow gave his magic to Cloney? Why did Clow gave his magic to Cloney? arrgghhhhhhhh Clamp, please stop giving us nymore of these crazy plots!!! >.>

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