Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Syaoran Thu 12 Feb 2009, 01:47

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Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Syaoran Thu 12 Feb 2009, 01:47

RAWs wrote:RAW by Ladydarkmoon
Scanlation online at OneManga (CarlosNet's version)

Translations wrote:Translation by CarlosNet
Translation by starlady38

Schedule wrote:01/28 - Shonen Magazine #09 - Chapter 211 - Beginning of tankoubon 27 (on sale).
02/04 - Shonen Magazine #10 - Chapter 212.
02/10 - Shonen Magazine #11 - Chapter 213.
02/18 - Shonen Magazine #12 - No Tsubasa scheduled.

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Seishirou Thu 12 Feb 2009, 01:49

EDIT: RAW is out at Ladydarkmoon!!!

OH.. I just got here to post it! ^^ Thanks for sharing anyway! :D

So the power hidden under the ruins is a feather and so the power hidden under the ruins wasn't there from the beginning. I really think that it was a shot in the dark by FWR, just wait till Sakura MAYBE left a feather under that water...

If FWR finally will break the basic law I guess it will be on Sakura. Just think about it... why the h**l would FWR want an empty body full of power from dimensions? I guess it sounds simple to me now.. maybe he wants to revive someone inside Sakura's body. Just a thought.

Now that she "has" her wings back, maybe the tube scene could happen XD

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by SakuraClowHIme200 Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:13

awww thanks for the translation. I can't wait to see the RAWs, and I agree with seishiro-san, the tube scene will happen soon !!

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Rayna Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:48

So that's why.
I knew he was going to revive someone; I just didn't know that by breaking dimensions, he could revive.

Now it makes a little more sense. Now him not caring for the lives he spent makes sense. Perhaps by doing this, he'll not just revive one person, but millions; with no law to govern the boarder...

So the power in the ruins wasn't there until Sakura had placed it. It explains a lot, actually. She could understand the water because it was, simply - herself. Well, more like her Clone self...although I still fail to see how this makes much sense. There should have been nothing in Clow originally since it didn't have the power to sustain itself...unless you seperated it into dimensions, where there are thousands upon thousands of parellel dimensions - thus Clow Kingdom never existing.

But on another note; it kind of makes me bitter a Yuuko. I mean, she allowed them to pass what they thought was "another world", when really it was the past. She gave no notice - no mention. Mokona is a very powerful weapon; if he was able to send them all to the past...her and Clow created something that could mess with time, and contributed in this overall plan.

But, is it really an evil plan now? Is it bad if all the dimensions are no longer connected/goverened by law? What would happen, time would be endless? No restrictions? People could see their love ones? I'm somehow betting that everything would go into entire choas and destruction; but it seems the dream has been "realized." I'd sure love the chance to revive Cloney, and his beloved...

Or Fay's twin, Kurogane's family...the options are entirely endless...o__0

...and a break. Fanastic. --___---'

Another thought: What if tube scene does feature Clone Syaoran/Sakura? The world is crumbling around them - Sakura is leaving Cloney, potentially because she's being revived or her memories are now being collected (it was Clone Sakura's body that created the map, and two feathers had survived before her soul was destroyed).

Or maybe it's simply her body and soul (Real Sakura) being sacrificed for the purpose of FWR's work...

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Seishirou Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:56

I agree with you Rayna and maybe CLAMP will revive everbody and everybone will have a happy ending (though I don't belive CLAMP would do such a thing XD)

But, yeah... if all the dimensions will be affected by this, all that bad things that happen would turn into nothing since everyone at every world would be happy with this.. (~~wonder how this would affect X1999~~)

About the Clow worlds CLAMP did a good way to explain.. all this messy is from the fact that the order of the dimensions are breaking, simple! So it is one Clow country.

About How Yuuko and Clow actually contributed a lot to FWR plans creating Mokonas, they sure did! But I guess in the next chapters Yuuko will come up with a good explanation! :D

by YamiSakura Thu 12 Feb 2009, 07:25

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by YamiSakura Thu 12 Feb 2009, 07:25

Hm... strangely, I don't think I understand exactly HOW FWR think of "this" insane/psycho plan ^^;; As in where did he think of this idea of "Let's destroy the chain that bound everything together, let's destroy the BASIC logic of this world!! THEN, the impossible would become possible" x___x

Okay...
(A) So, before this plan started... there's NOT really any ruin power that FWR was really seeking ><;;
(B) As people said in here and as well, I said it many time... Despite Yuuko and Clow Reed KEEP on saying "they are trying to STOP FWR's plan"... BUT the truth is in order for FWR's plan to work... it rely highly on Sakura's going to different dimension to collect back all those spread-off feather [which is what Mokona is for]...
It made me wonder IF Mokona do not exist, how would FWR collect those feather back to Sakura?? Just by sending Cloney around on his own to different dimension??
(C) IF Sakura didn't make the decision and IF Yuuko didn't use that sealed container to hide THAT presence of the feather... THEN there wouldn't be any left-over feather and as well, there wouldn't really be any "HIDDEN POWER underneath this Clow Ruin" o__O
(D) In conclusion, I am more convinced that Yuuko and Clow Reed "helped" progress FWR's plan than against it ^^;;;

P.S. (E) Who in the world is Sakura and her feather o__O why are her feathers so powerful that would make such an impact to the dimension "those" reside in??

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by CuteSherry Thu 12 Feb 2009, 08:16

YamiSakura wrote:As in where did he think of this idea of "Let's destroy the chain that bound everything together, let's destroy the BASIC logic of this world!! THEN, the impossible would become possible" x___x

In a previous volume, Yuuko clearly said that Clow Reed already tried before FWR (either to revive someone or to get the power under the ruins, it wasn't specified clearly enough) but failed...I would say FWR learned from CR's errors or might actually be repeating the exact same process but with some *bloody* 'corrections' to CR's initial plan.
Apart from this, Yuuko/CR/FWR are all exceptional magicians whose ages transcend the normal life spent of normal humans and they must be well taught in the laws of the Universe. Laws and rules that we, readers, ignore...
On the other side, this is just a manga, so Clamp simply decided arbitrarily that 'breaking' the dimensions=changing the order of the Universe=making the impossible possible.

On another note, the fact a feather was 'the power hidden inside the ruins' we've been wondering about since volume01 is....not 'lame' but almost, not too exciting anyway Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213 13116

Now, leaving apart the feather thingy, Clamp took yet another dangerous bet: the person FWR wants revived must be one Hell of an impressive thing/unexpected person/something beyond anyone's imagination..etc or else TRC's entire story is going to break down in pieces together with the dimensions: after building up the tension for 27 volumes, making so many insane sacrifices and spilling so much blood for the sake of reviving 'that person', Clamp better give us something real extraordinary to feed on...

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Seishirou Thu 12 Feb 2009, 08:23

RAW is out at Ladydarkmoon!!!

From the last page I guess this chapitre will join next since it seems that is missing half of the picture, like double pages. And YAAAAA Sakura's wings is back!!

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by CuteSherry Thu 12 Feb 2009, 08:54

*page 10*
'Syaoran'...you've been reaching for her hand during FWR's whole monologue...? (as far as I could tell, the guys were immobilized only in the last pages, so he should have been able to move before). Furthermore, why are you stuck on that rock helplessly if you can FLY to her...? -___- *let's face it, Clamp just didn't want him to take the hand, no matter what...*

Last note from me about this chapter: seems like all the feather aren't necessary for the wings to appear I guess. Anyway, Kohane's feather is in Yuuko's shop, which is another dimension on it's own.
More simply, maybe the memory of Holic/CCS world is not necessary for FWR to carry his plan: FWR want to break apart the dimensions, but CCS/Holic world is already falling apart all on it's own because of the whole Watanuki deal.
Plus, from volume1chap01, we can tell that not only Sakura's body but also her soul must grow wings for things to work I guess.

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by YamiSakura Thu 12 Feb 2009, 09:37

CuteSherry wrote:In a previous volume, Yuuko clearly said that Clow Reed already tried before FWR (either to revive someone or to get the power under the ruins, it wasn't specified clearly enough) but failed...I would say FWR learned from CR's errors or might actually be repeating the exact same process but with some *bloody* 'corrections' to CR's initial plan.

And actually, now that we know the truth about the "hidden power of Clow Ruin" ^^;; I really wonder WHAT did Clow Reed do the first time to test it out o__O Was the dimension/world collapse once already previously by CR?? but then, it restore back to balance?? and WHO was it that CR tested on?? It wouldn't involve "feather" again, would it??

Now, leaving apart the feather thingy, Clamp took yet another dangerous bet: the person FWR wants revived must be one Hell of an impressive thing/unexpected person/something beyond anyone's imagination..etc or else TRC's entire story is going to break down in pieces together with the dimensions: after building up the tension for 27 volumes, making so many insane sacrifices and spilling so much blood for the sake of reviving 'that person', Clamp better give us something real extraordinary to feed on...

Well, it really made me wonder... Clow Reed tried it out before or at least desperate enough to figure out this [while FWR as you said, most probably is repeating the mistake that CR is doing with his own improvement ^^;;]... Could what FWR want to revive BE the same one as who CR once want to revive as well?? Sort of like FWR is the "student" who is trying to take over the master's work and try it again?? x__X [despite CR fail and that CR & Yuuko know that it is STILL not possible] Okay... I know this sound totally mess-up >__>

When Yuuko is talking about FWR... she mention of FWR not as just an evil villian who POP out of nowhere ^^;;; BUT that it sound that all 3 of them know each other quite well at some point:
during chapter 201, when Yuuko is talking with FWR... is almost like "I/we have told you MANY times before, it is NOT possible" and there's not really much hostile feeling toward FWR; while FWR is talking about "Watanuki look JUST LIKE Clow Reed when he was little"... EVEN CR dying words with "The dream must end, then the future can move forward" doesn't bring in any hostile feeling toward FWR... but really only at his action [maybe]

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by amethyst-rose Thu 12 Feb 2009, 09:57

Wow, the last page leaves me to wonder what's going to happen next (stupid break next week x.X I knew it'd be cliffhanger =_=)

and I wonder why there's no splash page this time? (and is this the first time there's no splash page?)

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by YamiSakura Thu 12 Feb 2009, 10:01

amethyst-rose wrote:and I wonder why there's no splash page this time? (and is this the first time there's no splash page?)

I "think" it is... *lost track of it* Though.... I am wondering if CLAMP is trying to emphasize this as a 3 continuous chapters since this "moment" is so important... well, you know kind of like those series in which... it is sort of like a TV-movie ^^;;; like 1 episode is only 30 min. long BUT since it is the ultimate ending... they combine them all together to release it.

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by tsukiko Thu 12 Feb 2009, 10:03

thanks for the links!!!

hmmm...i wonder if our dead characters can be revived again...[sorry! just a passing thought!] but if they did revive them, then the past chapters have been for nothing really!!!

i always knew FWR wish had something to do with the worlds crumbling apart.

another break...-sigh-

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by amethyst-rose Thu 12 Feb 2009, 10:05

YamiSakura wrote:

I "think" it is... *lost track of it* Though.... I am wondering if CLAMP is trying to emphasize this as a 3 continuous chapters since this "moment" is so important... well, you know kind of like those series in which... it is sort of like a TV-movie ^^;;; like 1 episode is only 30 min. long BUT since it is the ultimate ending... they combine them all together to release it.

ahh okies! I see what you mean, thanks! Maybe if that's the case, we'll have a special splash page coming up soon ^-^!

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by sakura_sv Thu 12 Feb 2009, 13:36

Thank for the chapter :D

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by tsukiko Thu 12 Feb 2009, 13:46

by the way, it's now uploaded in onemanga.com!!!

:D

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by clamp_fan Thu 12 Feb 2009, 16:05

Rayna wrote: overall plan.
But, is it really an evil plan now? Is it bad if all the dimensions are no longer connected/goverened by law? What would happen, time would be endless? No restrictions? People could see their love ones? I'm somehow betting that everything would go into entire choas and destruction; but it seems the dream has been "realized." I'd sure love the chance to revive Cloney, and his beloved...

Or Fay's twin, Kurogane's family...the options are entirely endless...o__0
work...

Seishirou wrote:I agree with you Rayna and maybe CLAMP will revive everbody and everybone will have a happy ending (though I don't belive CLAMP would do such a thing XD)

When you asked ' is it really an evil plan now' I had to think about it too o_o Sure it would be so great to see Cloney revived and all those people *snif* but I guess it's bad for Sakura's body...The real one fell apart when being cloned, right? So what would happen to her if FWR uses it to connect all worls that exist?? I really can't think it would be good..I can't believe that ANYONE would be happy even if they get their beloved persons back when Sakura died for that.

YamiSakura wrote:(C) IF Sakura didn't make the decision and IF Yuuko didn't use that sealed container to hide THAT presence of the feather... THEN there wouldn't be any left-over feather and as well, there wouldn't really be any "HIDDEN POWER underneath this Clow Ruin" o__O

How was that again? I think I've read it once in TRC or xxxHolic that Yuuko or anyone else said ' you can't change the people's hearts' or something like that. It's just the fact that Sakura WAS ( or IS..(my brain's going to crash soon hdasfhwhmjkijogpg)) a person who just cares about everything and everyone. I don't think she would have changed her mind and would have taken the feather with her and leave the Reservoir in Tokyo unprotected...that's just not..like her..=__= so it all happened like it did..

But you're right at those points, kinda. O_O IF!!!! But then you could also say that the whole story doesn't make sense at all..there are just too many things that happened because something else did. So you could say 'if that wouldn't have happened, that wouldn't have happened'---would have been anything happening then?? My braiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin hurts! xDx

YamiSakura wrote:It made me wonder IF Mokona do not exist, how would FWR collect those feather back to Sakura?? Just by sending Cloney around on his own to different dimension??

I believe Cloney would have done anything in his might to save Sakura at the beginning, he didn't know about all the evil plans FWR had with Sakura and the feathers and that stuff, and Yuuko just grants wishes right? So even if Mokona wouldn't have existed, I think Cloney would have searched another way to travel through the dimensions. =D Look at this!I really think he would have done anything.: http://img43.onemanga.com/mangas/00000018/00000002/40.jpg
Seishiro could also travel by giving Yuuko his eye, right? I think there could have been another way.. the result would have been the same I guess =__=

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by cherrybloms Thu 12 Feb 2009, 17:14

Thanks for the Chapter.This chapter is really good,i am so exciting to see what will happen so finally the wings appear,That Evil FWR wnats to break the law so i tihnk it will be affect the other worlds even yuko's world and the tube scence will happen.

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by IceQueen Thu 12 Feb 2009, 17:53

Interesting chapter!:D I think FWR's plan will succeed, though, I wonder who is really the dead person he's been trying to resurrect? Can't wait to find out smile

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Seishirou Thu 12 Feb 2009, 22:18

Chibiyuuto in his LJ wrote:
Last page shows the many worlds noticing something strange happening... are all worlds getting connected? So exciting!

After reading this coment I came to a thought... I really think now CLAMP will make the great crossover EVER!!! I guess, since all worlds are being connected, that all those characters that passed in TRC history will join together in the same place. Could it be? It would be certainly so AWESOME!!

If we can dream...maybe unexpected characters could show up too!

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by biboks_4 Fri 13 Feb 2009, 00:16

Hmm, so Clow country is Tokyo in the future? *confused*

I don't think that FWR will revive EVERYONE, but maybe 3~5.
Or jusn one person.

At least, CLAMP is giving us reasons why FWR is doing all this.

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Rayna Sat 14 Feb 2009, 09:37

So, I'm in need of much clarification. I feel quite stupid/unobservant.

First off, How many Clow Kingdom's are there? One or two? The Clow Kingdom which we witnessed in the beginning is not the Clow Kingdom in which FWR is residing in currently, is it? The feather is in a "cut-off" point-where time was stilled, correct? We just seen a picture of Yukito and Touya in Clow Kingdom - they couldn't have been affected or in the cut-off time, otherwise they would've been destroyed. So, there isn't a feather in Clow Kingdom from the start of the story, where original Sakura came from? We didn't really see a lot of water worshipping; I'll have to check back on that ....

Sakura's body. We know that there is only one physical representation of Sakura; and that is her clone's body. So, what good is the original Sakura's soul? Does it contain needed power? What does Clow Kingdom's Sakura mean/do?

Clone Sakura's soul We know that the feathers represent her soul; but her soul has been killed - EXCEPT for a few feathers. Now that a feather has been returned to her body-can she perhaps live, still, as Clone Sakura? Perhaps one power can even grow. Or do the feathers just engrave the dimensions into her?

We can assume the vampire twins can travel freely across time as well. Since they were in Acid Tokyo. But why did Yuuko send them back there?

Yuuko's/FWR/Clow Reed Each has immense power-but evidently Sakura carries a power even stronger than their own. First, is Yuuko an enemy or a friend? She has contributed strongly to FWR's overall plan, despite proclaiming "the dream must end." However, she has done a limited amount of prevent FWR from achieving his goal, and has secretly allowed the gang to head into the past. Is is possible that Clow Reed had attempted, and perhaps himself sacrficed lives and failed horridly-in the same way our FWR had? Is it possible that these mystical, powerful beings are ONLY bound by the barrier of death?

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Kaya Sun 15 Feb 2009, 09:53

Well, I think it's pretty safe to say that CLAMP is ultimately trying to parallel Tsubasa Chronicle to the Akasha Chronicle. All this about dreams, and eggs, and world souls, and a 'living chronicle' storied in an element has to at least be derived from that theosophy....

Rayna wrote:How many Clow Kingdom's are there? One or two?

Both. I think the best thing to say about the two Clow Countries is that they are parallel, which is different from the alternate worlds they had been traveling to. In fact, by definition, a parallel world is a duplicate of an existent world which only exists outside of time--which is just what "Syaoran"s Clow Country is. The interesting thing is that while "Syaoran" Li was in one Clow, Syaoran (the clone) was in the other Clow at the exact same time since the events ran in the same time-line. How can "Syaoran" be in Clow and be in Fei Wong's place at the same time? Watanuki, most likely. His existence made it possible for time to split into two different lines. The Clow Country of "Syaoran'"s past had to be kicked into cut-off time because his wish to save Sakura and that funky death seal (which probably served as the reason Fei Wong now has access to the afterlife) had made that time-line, in an essence, nonexistent. So "Syaoran'"s Clow Country doesn't exist in time but because it DID exist and the memory of that existence is imprinted (in Sakura's body) he can excess them and the Sakura he knew from the Tsubasa Chronicle. Even though "Syaoran" rewound time he didn't erase those events. Nothing can erase them.

The thing that I need explaining on from CLAMP is the matter of why the feather is in Clow Country that "Syaoran" was in. It's very possible that because "Syaoran" choose to go to Clow Country, his choice already created his future in which his past was effected accordingly (eg because of that one choice the whole of the Tsubasa journey was Hitsuzen and so Sakura's feather was there). Ultimately Syaoran (the clone) lives in a Clow Country in which "Syaoran" had chosen not to go to Clow Country. It's strange that Watanuki is always labeled as something that shouldn't have existed but they don't say the same about Syaoran. Maybe his fate, just like Fay's (who might not have been a twin) and Kurogane's (who's parents still could have been alive), was changed with "Syaoran"'s choice. Maybe he wasn't even a clone in non-rewound time....which sucks to think about.

Rayna wrote:We know that the feathers represent her soul...

Her feathers actually represent her heart, not her soul. They're two disctinct things in Tsubasa represented by distinct kanji in each instance. In chapter one the kanji for feathers is used but the furigana is heart, implying they're one in the same. This is how Fei Wong was able to psych them out on her death.

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Re: Tsubasa RC Chapitre 213

by Just_A_Shinigami Sat 21 Feb 2009, 14:14

...is Yuuko an enemy or a friend? She has contributed strongly to FWR's overall plan, despite proclaiming "the dream must end." However, she has done a limited amount of prevent FWR from achieving his goal, and has secretly allowed the gang to head into the past....

To me Yuuko seems to be in the middle, kinda like Sweden, but she's more on the protagonists' side that Fei Wang's.

The reason she went along with Fei Wang's plan is becasue she can't meddle with things. However we don't know why she can't...yet. Even though the gang was able to go to the past to avoid Fei Wang's observations, it was Ashura-ou's wish to allow to the gang to go to the past. Yuuko can't do anything to help the gang if it wasn't for the wish. And so, Yuuko depends on those wishes to change the courses of the events and the gang's attitude toward different things (which triggers different events) (Ex: Clone Sakura wished to be stabbed instead in Infinity, and when her body went to Celes, the gang, even Fai, who wished to never go back to the country again, decided to go to the country. Things happened in Celes, and the gang managed to escape from the collapsing world to Japan because of Princess Tomoyo's wish. If it weren't for the wishes, the gang would have died.) , and ultimately, to stop Fei Wang's wish from becoming true.

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