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Seems like we posted at the same time XD XD [but I did post it 1 min. before ^^;;] though I guess... I will delete mine... so there wouldn't be so many topic running around ^^---------------------------------------
Thanks for posting it out so soon
*will post comment on it once I read it later*
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Oh, I'm truly sorry about that 
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well this chapter said a few things... almost nothing... I really wish CCS!Sakura and CCS!Syaoran werent dead 
but I hope these stories change their course and will have a happy ending
but I hope these stories change their course and will have a happy ending
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xxxHolic Chp 168 translations by StarLady38
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[01]
Yuuko: If he wasn't here,
If no one but Shaoran existed in this world,
Wouldn't his parents not have died?
That thought and regret
Beckoned spirits to that child,
Making him choose an unhappier path,
[02]
Yuuko: And
Trying to return what had been divided
Into two into one.
When Shaoran paid off the price,
And ran from Fei Wong's base,
And confronted the other Shaoran in Tokyo,
[03]
Yuuko: Shaoran put his life on the line in that fight.
Watanuki,
As a different but same existence,
While even he himself didn't realize it, sensed that
And in order to leave Shaoran behind
[04]
Yuuko: Unconsciously
Tried to erase himself.
[05]
M&M: No.
Watanuki can't disappear.
Yuuko: Maru....
Moro...
M&M: Maru and Moro
Both want to be together more.
We want to be together with Watanuki.
[06]
Yuuko: So does Watanuki.
Various people felt for Watanuki,
And Watanuki too reacted to those feelings,
And changed.
That child is now
Wishing that "I want to be here."
[07]
Yuuko: If that wish becomes strong enough,
Together with that child,
The future will change too.
M&M: Thank you, mistress.
Thank you for
Teaching us important things.
[08]
M&M: Maru.
Moro.
Because we love Watanuki,
We'll do our best and protect the store.
So that we can always be together with Watanuki.
[09]
Yuuko: ...Thank you.
[10]
Yuuko: ...Watanuki.
The situation you are in now is what you have chosen.
You decided that if Shaoran was alone, you too had to be alone.
But
You don't even remember that.
Your memories were handed over as payment, and are not within you.
[11]
Yuuko: So, certain of your memories
Are the curse constructed by Fei Wong.
You believe that they are, but
Not all of them are true.
Your surname is
The name your parents gave you. [TN: "Name" written "alias."]
Your name is
The name that includes the promise your parents made to you. [TN: "Name" written "oath-name."]
[12]
Yuuko: Watanuki Kimihiro.
To look for
...you.
That they would, absolutely, go to meet you.
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AND Woooo~~ That... was... fast!! the... the scanlation for this chapter is up already O_______O
Scanlation at onemanga: http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/168/01/
Talked about efficiency!!!!! The raw scan was posted like 6 hours ago.. the translation was up 3 hours ago!! That's really amazing!!
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A--HA~~ I knew it!!! I knew that the moment I saw the Kanji name version of Kimihiro [君尋]... it doesn't translate as the "normal" JPN meaning that everyone has been saying which is "Prophet"!!!! I have always thought of that name in the chinese way which is "looking for a person" ... or I guess in this case "look for you [watanuki]"
Scanlation at onemanga: http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/168/01/
Talked about efficiency!!!!! The raw scan was posted like 6 hours ago.. the translation was up 3 hours ago!! That's really amazing!!
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A--HA~~ I knew it!!! I knew that the moment I saw the Kanji name version of Kimihiro [君尋]... it doesn't translate as the "normal" JPN meaning that everyone has been saying which is "Prophet"!!!! I have always thought of that name in the chinese way which is "looking for a person" ... or I guess in this case "look for you [watanuki]"
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I have to say, this chapter is extremely sad! I couldn't held back my tears! They keet on repeating the same statement " we will meet you or they would absolutely go to meet you!" It makes my instinct feels like Watanuki is going to be dissapear anytime soon! Poor Watanuki! I hope you won't dissapear ( I won't let you dissapear! Never let you go!).
I couldn't held back my tears! They keet on repeating the same statement " we will meet you or they would absolutely go to meet you!" It makes my instinct feels like Watanuki is going to be dissapear anytime soon! Poor Watanuki! I hope you won't dissapear ( I won't let you dissapear! Never let you go!).
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And here goes LadyDarkMoon raws : xxxholic168[raw]
And Franky-house english scanlation : xxxholic168[eng]
I guess that the promise CCS|SxS made with Watanuki gives us a bit of Hope, since they said they would definitely come to meet him.
Still, is this really Clamp trying to cheer up their distraught fans or another of their evil schemes?
Sorry, I know I sound pessimistic, which is very contradictory since I declared I arbitrarily decided I wanted them alive, but Clamp mistreated us so much lately that I'm having a hard time believing that while telling us from chapter01 that his parents are both dead (and repeating it all the time until we are fed up), they still made up a promise SxS would meet with him (their ghosts? everything but that!! *Sakura mama are scared of those, but what is she is one herself?* :P)
And Franky-house english scanlation : xxxholic168[eng]
I guess that the promise CCS|SxS made with Watanuki gives us a bit of Hope, since they said they would definitely come to meet him.
Still, is this really Clamp trying to cheer up their distraught fans or another of their evil schemes?
Sorry, I know I sound pessimistic, which is very contradictory since I declared I arbitrarily decided I wanted them alive, but Clamp mistreated us so much lately that I'm having a hard time believing that while telling us from chapter01 that his parents are both dead (and repeating it all the time until we are fed up), they still made up a promise SxS would meet with him (their ghosts? everything but that!! *Sakura mama are scared of those, but what is she is one herself?* :P)
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If there's a bit of hope that SXS are still alive, I can't imagine why they have to torture us this much! Repeating that they are both death and made up with the promise " we will meet again" doesn't cheer me up one bit.
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This chapter just..... confuses me. And saddens me. I am pretty sure that Watanuki's parents are dead.... but maybe they are talking about their alternates. Afterall, doesn't anyone have an inkling that TRC Sakura and SYaoran are going to meet Watanuki? Maybe that's what CCS Sakura and SYaoran meant by "meet again."
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Subaru-kun wrote:Afterall, doesn't anyone have an inkling that TRC Sakura and SYaoran are going to meet Watanuki? Maybe that's what CCS Sakura and SYaoran meant by "meet again."
Hello? Both TRC Sakura and Syaoran had already met Watanuki in the dream world remember?. The only thing troubles Watanuki that he couldn't initially recognise TRC Sakura and Syaoran are his parents' counterparts.
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this whole "meet again" is making me nervous, it might be that it means he will get his memory back and remember them thus "meet again" but the pessemestic part of me is thinking that maybe Watanuki will die/disappear and then meet them!! 
the way i got it is that they both want him to live for different reasons, FWR so the distortion can continue and bring pain to others while Yuuko wants Watanuki alive and thinks that this "pain" is not set in stone and that the future can change and be happier with Watanuki in it..am i making sense?
And which I remembered from TRC 202, Yuuko emphasis so much on "Watanuki need to live on and the FUTURE hasn't been decided yet" while FWR talked about "as long as this child does NOT disappear, the distortion of dimension would continue on and will just bring pain to those people around him!?" FWR WANT Watanuki to disappear while Yuuko insist on him BEING alive!?
the way i got it is that they both want him to live for different reasons, FWR so the distortion can continue and bring pain to others while Yuuko wants Watanuki alive and thinks that this "pain" is not set in stone and that the future can change and be happier with Watanuki in it..am i making sense?
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why did sakura pay her staff to yuuko? surely she would have enough power to send "syaoran" there herself (if she really is more powerful than clow) and it couldn't be because "she didn't because she was going to do something in the future in another dimension to help "syaoran"" because she knew enough about the future to know she was going to die, considering she seemed to know enough to wish for watanuki to look different. and it couldn't be that the staff was more than enough for the dimension hopping so that it could be used for a part of another wish as well (in the future) because to travel dimensions you must give up your most precious item (her staff) so regardless of how much yuuko wanted the staff it still would only be an equal wish... soooo yeah, I dunno
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I see. So Watanuki's name also means "Go look for you/To look for you".
CCS!Sakura and Syaoran could well be alive after all! But if that was true, then why did they leave Watanuki behind? Where are they?
CCS!Sakura and Syaoran could well be alive after all! But if that was true, then why did they leave Watanuki behind? Where are they?
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Well, CarlosNet translation[ is up too :D
*note* Since my previous long post was accidentally deleted this morning... I decided to re-write it and add up extra things too
As I have wondered which part of "false memory" was Yuuko referring to?? In which I have the curious thought of looking up the "bloody arms extended toward Watanuki from Chapter 117" ... and there seems to be a slight contradiction with "the promise = "We will... / ...seek you out."" with Watanuki
As I have stated, I understood that we could easily countered by what the fortune telling lady has said about "your parents was killed in an accident and they are in peace" or Yuuko said about "they have sacrificed themselves for you [Watanuki]"... BUT... somehow, there seems to be more behind it and it just seems odd about the mere explanation of "They died during a severe road accident to protect Kimihiro" [now that we know Watanuki's parents were actually CCS|SxS]
And also the part to what Yuuko said before about divination, "Being a diviner, for her correctly made interpretation to the divinations. Only the conclusion is to be told to the recipient. Anything else will not be spoken, only what you want is given"
I think I should stop here... I probably is over interpreting EVERYTHING... and that something tells me CLAMP is going to trip me over for over-analyzing their saying
Though I guess I believe that CCS|SxS are still alive and hope that those "bloody arms" memories of Watanuki were only a fake memory created by FWR
*note* Since my previous long post was accidentally deleted this morning... I decided to re-write it and add up extra things too
I found this part of the translation reinforce/clarify slightly of the idea I thought of beforelodestar21 wrote:CCS!Sakura and Syaoran could well be alive after all! But if that was true, then why did they leave Watanuki behind? Where are they?
There's a different between Watanuki CHOSE to be left alone [from his parents maybe??] and Watanuki IS BEING left alone [because his parents sacrifice for him]!?
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Yuuko: ...Watanuki. // The situation you are in right now is of your own choosing. // You yourself chose that if Syaoran must be alone, then so should you. // And yet... / ...you no longer remember even that. // Your memories are no longer with you; they were paid as a price.
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Yuuko: As such, the memories that you possess... / ...are a curse placed upon you by Fei Wong. // That is what you believe to be true... // ...but it is not entirely truth. // Your surname... / ...is a name your parents gave you for your protection. // And your forename... / ...is a name embodying your parents' promise to you.
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Yuuko: Watanuki Kimihiro. // "We will... / ...seek you out." // A promise to find you once more.
[Side text: Watanuki's existence... steeped in a sorrowful, fleeting and unconscious courage. "We will find you once more"... his parents' promise is the one real truth!!]
As I have wondered which part of "false memory" was Yuuko referring to?? In which I have the curious thought of looking up the "bloody arms extended toward Watanuki from Chapter 117" ... and there seems to be a slight contradiction with "the promise = "We will... / ...seek you out."" with Watanuki
No where in that conversation has the saying of "We will seek you and find/meet with you ONCE MORE", it only emphasis on SOMEONE ELSE would meet with you!!translation by Inarikami from Chapter 117 wrote:
Page 5.
Little Wata: Dad... Mum...
Parents: We're sorry... for not being able to be with you. We're sorry.
For making you feel lonely. For making you feel pain. We're sorry.
Page 6.
Parents: But... Surely you will meet someone who is waiting for you.
Without interrupting your future.
Page 7.
Parents: People who look at you... Talk to you... People who will be with you...
That's why...
Page 8.
Parents: Please... don't disappear.
Our beloved child.
Another one...
As I have stated, I understood that we could easily countered by what the fortune telling lady has said about "your parents was killed in an accident and they are in peace" or Yuuko said about "they have sacrificed themselves for you [Watanuki]"... BUT... somehow, there seems to be more behind it and it just seems odd about the mere explanation of "They died during a severe road accident to protect Kimihiro" [now that we know Watanuki's parents were actually CCS|SxS]
And also the part to what Yuuko said before about divination, "Being a diviner, for her correctly made interpretation to the divinations. Only the conclusion is to be told to the recipient. Anything else will not be spoken, only what you want is given"
I think I should stop here... I probably is over interpreting EVERYTHING... and that something tells me CLAMP is going to trip me over for over-analyzing their saying
Though I guess I believe that CCS|SxS are still alive and hope that those "bloody arms" memories of Watanuki were only a fake memory created by FWRLast edited by YamiSakura on Fri 31 Oct 2008, 12:01; edited 1 time in total
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lol, off topic but your nick, "yamisakura" just makes me imagine "what if 'sakura''s feathers were being hunted down by the holders of the millenium items"
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I really want CCS Sakura and Syaoran to be alive, but I'm seriously doubting that now.
Still, CLAMP, I won't EVER forgive you for killing off the CCS couple. EVER. D<
Still, CLAMP, I won't EVER forgive you for killing off the CCS couple. EVER. D<
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well he IS the result of breaking a taboo... maybe he shouldn't exist
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Subaru-kun wrote:I am pretty sure that Watanuki's parents are dead...
I DISAGREE!!! I'm stilly 100% sure that CCS|Sakura and Syaoran are alive!! Why? because the latest translation explains it all!
Yuuko said the curse was placed by Butt Chin, making Watanuki believe everything is true but in reality, most of them are false. So my prediction isn't wrong after all! His memories was being replaced with thinking that his parents are dead. . This would mean, the concept about his parents dead aren't entire true. CCS|SXS could be alive , where? which dimension? we don't know. CLamp couldnt simply just kill off their most important characters in one of a heck of an accident like that.
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*sigh* I gave up on making theories about SXS being alive. I don't know what to believe anymore.
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mistyco26 wrote:*sigh* I gave up on making theories about SXS being alive. I don't know what to believe anymore.
I'm with you on this one
I love CLAMP, and I love TRC and HOLIC, but if I try to plot any more I think I'll get a heart attack >.> I want to believe CCS!Syaoran and Sakura are alive, but with all of the evidence accumulated against this, I don't know what to think anymore ...........clap if you believe? *claps hopefully* xD
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