xxxHolic Chaptire 167

I happened to stumble across this Chinese website and
surprisingly, I found the latest raw for xxxHolic chaptire 167 (well, there is no doubt the Chinese Clamp community is indeed, ahead of us^^). Anyway, I decided to upload the Chinese scanlations for those of you who are yearning to see the scans. I do not know if the translations are out yet but for now, please enjoy!.
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Thank you so much Ayashi!!!! I have been waiting and waiting to see this chapter forever. It's a shame theres no translations'yet . I wanna know what they're talking about! By the way, isn't that CCSakura's real wand which Yuuko is holding? I wonder what she is saying here to Watanuki! And oh! the picture frame with CCS|Sakura and Syaoran! It looks almost the same to the one Real Sayoran had back in Clow country except that Watanuki was being replace in the photo. I so wanna see CCS|Sakura-mama and Syaoran-papa's faces.

Translations by xreggg are up! ->.http://x-reggg.livejournal.com/468737.html

Still sounds vague in place but since this is CLAMP, who knows really?


BTW can I ask the admins to just call this thread Chaptire 167 so we can post scanlations and translations all here? Seems kind of bothersome to make a new thread everytime

Wow,This is so great and confused I don't understand the two eggs,Is it like Syaoran and Watanuki?There is items of Tsubasa and Anglic Layer and CCS wand,I Hope CCS!Sakura and Syaoran didn't die poor watanuki

The actual raw are out guys! Special thanks to [Ju-Ni]Vicissitude~

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THANK YOU SO MUCH for the Raw and translations :present: So now the conclusion is clear, Watanuki is really is Syaoran, so that would mean, CCSakura and Syaoran ARE REALLY dead!!!

My head is about ready to explode! Sakura and Syaoran are....dead? Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu It's impossible... I won't accept it! Wait the sec! Watanuki lost his memory when he was merely a child which means he doesn't remember who they are, so maybe, Watanuki's memory of his parents was replaced with thinking that they have died or something........

More coherent translations here by cnet128 at Mangahelpers

I see. So Watanuki was supposed to look like Syaoran Jr. as well. But his parents loved him as much too. I'm not sure who did it, either Watanuki or CCS!Sakura or Syaoran, but his appearance and name was changed to protect him from Fei Wong Reed.

More clarification on this. Watanuki Kimihiro was a fake name created like a charm to protect him. As for his appearance, I'm convinced it was so he had his own individuality, I don't think it'd do any good as protection from Fei Wong Reed since he already knows what Watanuki looks like.

There still is no guarantee that Watanuki won't disappear. I'm really curious about the circumstances for this. Watanuki was created to fill the void Syaoran Jr. left behind, right? But now Syaoran Jr. is awake and that could be the reason why Watanuki has been in a funk a few chapters back. My reasoning is that if Syaoran Jr. is awake there would be no reason for Watanuki to be existent.

I kind of like this reasoning because that would mean that Syaoran Jr. telling Watanuki "don't disappear" would mean he genuinely cares for him. You can tell by reading TRC he does but its still kind of nice. :)

Finally! Things have cleared up!

Okay, all the things about Watanuki: it clears a lot of things up, and it does all this other stuff to my brain that I can't explain.

But I believe that Yuuko is really worried about everyone, it must be hard for her.

Also, why is it that we never get to see the Carcaptors faces?!

Coz CLAMP is mean to us...

And I think it's sad that we're not getting to see CCS Sakura's and Syaoran's faces, it just gave me an unpleasent feeling inside while looking at the photgraph. It just made me feel sad, and knowing that the two are dead, makes me even more upset...

Okay so Watanuki, um...well since you all explained all the things I don't have a say in this either except for: Someone needs to give Wata-kun and Syao-kun a hug!

chibi-chan wrote:My head is about ready to explode! Sakura and Syaoran are....dead? Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu It's impossible... I won't accept it! Wait the sec! Watanuki lost his memory when he was merely a child which means he doesn't remember who they are, so maybe, Watanuki's memory of his parents was replaced with thinking that they have died or something........

Hmm... perhaps it could be the case and I agree with your theory:);; Watanuki truly doesn't seem to remember his parents' face so could it be possible that his real parents are not CCSakura and Syaoran at all? I don't know.. but I think the story does kinda make sense given that they are Watanuki's real parents because it did say clearly in the translations that Watanuki's existence was to fil the void Syaoran-kun's replacement as CCSakura and Syaoran's child. And let's not forget , Mr FWR did mention that " If Watanuki is existed and replaced with the original Syaoran, it will eventually bring *pain* to his parents" We do not know whether the "pain" , is related directly to his parents death from that "accident" but I got a feeling somehow, it is likely the case.

mistyco26 wrote:

Hmm... perhaps it could be the case and I agree with your theory:);; Watanuki truly doesn't seem to remember his parents' face so could it be possible that his real parents are not CCSakura and Syaoran at all?

IT COULD BE POSSIBLE!!!! They never really show us Sakura mama and Syaoran papa's faces so I highly doubt they are certainly NOT Watanuki's real parents. Clamp can fool us you know, like they did with whole 'incest concept thingy" so, right now, I'm just gonna sit down and wait for more information cos there is no way I will ever accept the fact that our beloved CCS couple are dead

I don't know.. but I think the story does kinda make sense given that they are Watanuki's real parents because it did say clearly in the translations that Watanuki's existence was to fil the void Syaoran-kun's replacement as CCSakura and Syaoran's child. And let's not forget , Mr FWR did mention that " If Watanuki is existed and replaced with the original Syaoran, it will eventually bring *pain* to his parents" We do not know whether the "pain" , is related directly to his parents death from that "accident" but I got a feeling somehow, it is likely the case.

I know it was Syaoran papa who changed Syaoran's appearance and all that but I still don't understand why the consequences would lay on his parents.. Maybe CCSakura and CCSyaoran are still alive and like I have mentioned before in my previous post, perhaps Watanuki's memory of his parents was replaced with thinking that they have died or something, And besides, he doesn't remember what his parents actually look like, so I'm guessing Watanuki might have been replaced as a foster child to somebody else by his real parents and his foster's parents could be the people might have been killed in that accident.

*sigh* Chibi-chan, what you said about " Watanuki being replaced as sombody elses foster child' is somehow, invalid. Watanuki did mention in the beginning of xxxHolic that his parents were killed in the car accident when he was really young. This would mean, Watanuki does remember what his parents actually look like. By the look of it, we alrealdy know that, Watanuki's memory isn't replaced with thinking that his parents were dead but we know that his memory was plainly erased due to the price, which he offered himself to work for Yuuko. And if we compare the photo of Watanuki's parents and Syaoran's parents, we can see that the link between these photos are approximately the same (only Watanuki was being replaced as Syaoran). I have no other theories to go up against at this point , Clamp had already made up their mind about the case that Watanuki's parents are dead so right now, i'm just gonna weep at the corner and accept the fact.

So really the parents were CCS Sakura and Syaoran, but being killed in a car accident would probaly be false. We need to know how they died and what real info Wata-kun actually remembers. Lets first discuss about CC Syaoran and Sakura's death, we got a brief clue on what happened.

Like I said before, in Nihon when Seishrou was fighting "Syoaran" Seishrou said he knew CCS Syaoran considering that they both look alike and had the same moves. So Sei probaly fought with CCS Syaoran for unknown reasons and killed him and maybe CCS Sakura too.

Okay so we have two suspects on the case of the death of the CCS couple! FWR aka Butt chin and Seishrou! And another possible suspect could be....Kyle! Dun, dun, dun!

*ahem* And about Wata-kun, we need to know what he actually remembers! What is actually the truth! And Yuko needs to explain herself becuase she lied to Watanuki! In one chapter Wata-kun asked if he was human and Yuko said yes! No, Wata-kun is just a replacement to "Syaoran!" What else has Yuko lied about?

Hmm, I must say, I liked this chapter a lot :D Cleared some stuff up, but not as much as it raised more questions T_T Gah, I'm getting really freaked out by how it looks like the shop is going to be erased from existence Dx Now, with that said, I shal delve into the massive amount of theories....

So. Watanuki's parents are CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura. Watanuki said that his parents died in a car accident. I find this highly unlikely. Not the dying part (although I have some speculation as to whether they would be dead or not), but on the car accident part. Most likely it was purposeful murder, in my opinion. By whom, I'm not sure, but I have an inkling FWR is related to everything. Yuuko did say that when CCS!Syaoran changed Watanuki's appearance and name so that he would not look like Syaoran, it made everything extremely difficult for FWR to find Watanuki for reasons unknown. And maybe, since CCS!Syaoran and Sakura didn't change their names, FWR found them and disposed of them (to put it nicely T_T) Maybe, since CLAMP's not showing their faces, they tried to change their appearance too so they wouldn't be killed? I have no idea. Please keep in mind that everything I am saying is theoretical and is probably not what CLAMP is thinking Oh yeah, and just coming back to the FWR wanting Watanuki part, I think it might be that since FWR wasn't able to find Watanuki, he just made a clone of R!Syaoran, thus making C!Syaoran. Possible?

Now, with Seishirou knowing CCS!Syaoran. Very, very likely that Seishirou had an "encounter" with him (to put it nicely xD), but I don't really think that he killed them. I think their death is related to FWR and his wish, and I don't like the idea of Seishirou being like Kyle. I think Seishirou's just a whole another story, personally :D He looks like a person who has somewhat good intentions and uses not-so-good and twisted ways to get what he wants. And he doesn't look like one to follow orders from people like FWR *hasn't read TB yet >.<*

Now, the big guy. Mr. Watanuki. *inspects him* This kid has no idea what the heck is going on, he doesn't know how old he is, who is parents are, what grade he is in, what his life was like before Yuuko, and he can't retrieve feathers to find it out. I'm hearing that he probably lost his memories before he even entered the shop (which is entirely possible considering he didn't freak out when he saw "Mom" and "Dad" come down from a big bubble as teenagers xD), but the only real wish that happened in the manga in which Watanuki had to lose his memories was when he met Yuuko in the dream and asked what she wished for. Before all of this, that chapter was what I thought was the catalyst for all of Watanuki's memory loss, but there's obviously something bigger going on >.> That's one of the many we need to figure out from CLAMP.

And as for Yuuko lying to him, well, I'm sure she's omitted some stuff from him because she thought he doesn't need to know yet, but I don't think she really lied in saying that he's not human. Wata-kun IS human! He was just born because Syaoran couldn't be born. In essence, Watanuki is human, and Yuuko was telling the truth, because he isn't a ghost or a spirit. But it's also true that he was born under extremely unusual circumstances, which explains why all of the spirit world calls him "one of a kind." So, not exactly an original but not a clone either, what should we call Watanuki? @_@

Um, WOW I wrote a lot >.> So sorry, I have a problem of rambling but I felt I needed to add my thoughts in, so there's my brain xD Do what you want with it, it's already melted :D

Aarrgh people! I have no idea why you all included Seishou and Kyle on the case of the death of the CCS couple! That doesn't make any sense!

mistyco26 wrote:*sigh* Chibi-chan, what you said about " Watanuki being replaced as sombody elses foster child' is somehow, invalid. Watanuki did mention in the beginning of xxxHolic that his parents were killed in the car accident when he was really young. This would mean, Watanuki does remember what his parents actually look like. By the look of it, we alrealdy know that, Watanuki's memory isn't replaced with thinking that his parents were dead but we know that his memory was plainly erased due to the price, which he offered himself to work for Yuuko. And if we compare the photo of Watanuki's parents and Syaoran's parents, we can see that the link between these photos are approximately the same (only Watanuki was being replaced as Syaoran). I have no other theories to go up against at this point , Clamp had already made up their mind about the case that Watanuki's parents are dead so right now, i'm just gonna weep at the corner and accept the fact.

But..but.. it couldn't be. CCSakura and CCSyaoran should be alive. If they really are dead, what will happen to CCS world? who will be the "substitue" over the master of Clow Card?? The world would be doom if CCSakura and Syaoran are no longer existed.

mistyco26 wrote:Aarrgh people! I have no idea why you all included Seishou and Kyle on the case of the death of the CCS couple! That doesn't make any sense!

Well Kyle was just a simple guess, and as for Seishrou...in Nihon arch Seishrou clearly said to R!Syaoran that he knew Syaoran's father who so happens to be CCS Syaoran because he looks like him and has the same fighting moves which indicates that Seishrou came to the CCS world looking for the vamp twins and came across CCS Syaoran and might've fought with him and might've killed him. This is just a theory!

And chibi-chan, you're absolutly right with the whole "What'll happen to CCS world if the star mistress died." that's an intresting question, maybe the world is falling apart and Yuko's trying to keep it in place like she's doing with her shop...I think of the weirdest theories....

Hokuto-chan wrote: Well Kyle was just a simple guess, and as for Seishrou...in Nihon arch Seishrou clearly said to R!Syaoran that he knew Syaoran's father who so happens to be CCS Syaoran because he looks like him and has the same fighting moves which indicates that Seishrou came to the CCS world looking for the vamp twins and came across CCS Syaoran and might've fought with him and might've killed him. This is just a theory!

There is no such things CCSakura|Syaraon were murdered by Seishrou. Seishrou only mentioned it once, that he did come across Syaoran's father ( well, maybe be it is possible that they had fought) but that doesn't mean he simultaneously killed off both CCSakura|Syaoran! Watanuki explicitly stated that " His parents were killed in an accident", he didn't say his parents were murdered. If his parents were actually got slaughtered, he wouldn't end up encounter with Yuuko in the fist place wouldn't he? and that will eventually change the whole story plots and it's not even considering as "xxHolic crossing over with TRC" anymore:/

chibi-chan wrote:
But..but.. it couldn't be. CCSakura and CCSyaoran should be alive. If they really are dead, what will happen to CCS world? who will be the "substitue" over the master of Clow Card?? The world would be doom if CCSakura and Syaoran are no longer existed.

Good questions. If CCSakura and CCSyaoran are dead, I suppose their son will be the one to take over the master of Clow Card . That's the reason why Watanuki's existence is so important to Syaoran because if Watanuki's dissapeared, his own world would likely be doom.

*sigh* I think at this point it is not a matter of doubting whether Watanuki's REAL parents are CCS|SxS or not. And sadly say, not much doubt for even the matter of whether they die or not ;____; Unless there's some "making the impossible become possible" twist that CLAMP are able to pull out. With the revelation that is being reveal by Yuuko [and especially through Yuuko's mouth, there are nothing vague about it]. CCS|SxS are unfortunately exposed as having the bad end already

Though what curious me is the fact that HOW would 2 powerful magicians just "happen" to die in an accident TRYING TO SAVE their son and should I add in "BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME"?? This is REALLY one heck of an accident I must say!?

I’m just not sure what all the rage is about. It has already exposed that Watanuki is a substitute for Syaoran which means CCSakura|Syaoran are Watanuki’s parents. Fei Wong Reed has proclaimed that there will be pain for the substitute child, and for his parents and we know, “the pain” is obviously related to his parents “death”. So, it's likely that CCS!Syaoran and Sakura had already died>_<. Like many of you, I was sincerely hope they aren’t but what’s happened is not going to change the fact-everything is already fall apart.

well...yuuko did say it was watanukis parents wish was for his safety maybe the price was for their own...maybe.

YamiSakura wrote:
Though what curious me is the fact that HOW would 2 powerful magicians just "happen" to die in an accident TRYING TO SAVE their son and should I add in "BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME"?? This is REALLY one heck of an accident I must say!?

Exactly what I was thinking :D I don't think this was an accident, per se, but more likely a planned murder. And FWR doesn't look like one who cares if the Card Mistress of the CCS world died >.> Although it's also possible for them to have sacrificed their lives for Watanuki so he wouldn't die, but Yuuko doesn't accept death as a payment :)

Since most of what has been happening to Watanuki throughout xxxHOLiC looks like a giant 'alternate dimension creator' (for the sake of Watanuki's existence), given certain aspects of the whole 'don't disappear' thing and some other stuff I won't go into right now; I theorize that CSS Sakura and Shaoran are not "Dead For Keeps", and that it will end with them being okay because of some sort of weird dimensional/temporal timey whimey ball of snot.

Again, that's just a theory. With probably lots of holes. Maybe even wishful thinking, as this is a story by CLAMP, the Queens of Angst.

But do we really have solid proof that CCS! Syaoran and CCS! Sakura are dead? Sure it said Watanuki's parents died in an accident, but are the parents really the CCS couple? Okay mabe the CCS couple are dead, the question is what exactly happened to them? What would happen to their world? And why did Yuko said in the very first chapter that the two were lviing peacefully with each other?

And I think that Watanuki disappearing and the whole "If the dream doesn't end" implies with it. What does it mean "If the dream doesn't end?" And what would happen if Watanuki disappears? Will "Syaoran" disappear as well? Will the shop disappear also? What will happen? And the whole "If the dream doesn't end" how was that the last thing Clow said to Yuko?

Okay too many questions, and there's a lot more that CLAMP has to answer in the next few voulmes since TRC is going to end soon.